Rafa's alleged contract offer to Crouch....

[Dalglish]

Aye, like that's any good

didnt he only have one token cap before he came to us?

[BubbaZanetti]

Aye, like that's any good

didnt he only have one token cap before he came to us?

You may well be right. He was at the training camp when it first officially broke that Rafa had bid for him

[Shaggy]

Aye, like that's any good

didnt he only have one token cap before he came to us?

I think he'd been called up for that pointless tour of the USA and that was it, aye. He played well though, if I remember correctly.

[Dalglish]

My point is probably more that whilst with us, under Rafa he has improved tenfold. He seems to be forgetting that

[Elvoz]

I think he'd been called up for that pointless tour of the USA and that was it, aye. He played well though, if I remember correctly.

he did ok aye

seems we should only buy 30 mill player for ya pal

[BubbaZanetti]

I thought Moyes was god to the tesco value team

[Elvoz]

My point is probably more that whilst with us, under Rafa he has improved tenfold. He seems to be forgetting that

he hasnt at all

he wants to play for us - rafa doesnt feel the saem - doesnt mean he is slagging rafa

[kurtangle01]

Bye bye Peter. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

[Reece]

I think he'd been called up for that pointless tour of the USA and that was it, aye. He played well though, if I remember correctly.

Correct. Set up a couple for Owen. Didn't Southampton get relegated that season? Surely he would have moved on somewhere anyway. Was lucky it was to us I guess.

[hamshanks]

If you play Torres and Crouch then what do you do with Gerrard? you can't (or Rafa won't, rightly in my view) play him in CM as 1 of 2, if Rafa playes SG wide right he behaves like a total tart and throws his toys out, chats to Redknapp and his other mates in the media who then bring it up at every opportunity.
To much is made of 'the Liverpool way' Rafa picked the squad, they weren't in it so how about Riise saying thank you to to fans that have stuck by him for 7 largely average seasons? what about Crouch thanking the fans that didn't turn on him during 20 odd games without a goal???

The most important thing is Liverpool FC, by definition that makes the next important person the manager because he has the decision making power.
Like it or not players don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
There is no room for sentimentality unless you are a proper legend (God)
Robbie was allowed a send off, Rafa even brought him off a couple of minutes early to allow him a standing ovation.

I think Gerrard should play in central midfield, that's his best position.

Like I said if Crouch and Riise were at least on the bench they would've been able to say thankyou to those fans and those fans could've shown their respect to them.

Like it or not mate, to a certain extent this club is built on sentimentality, yes at their best Shankly and Paisley were ruthless, but they were also passionate and compassionate people and passion is a sentiment. Furthermore Liverpool is one hell of a sentimental city that's why football means so much.

[dww]

The needlessly aggravating tit for tat posting ends now. Thank you kindly.

[Not referring to hamshank's post here]

[Sarb]

Talk about getting side-tracked. People need to chill out a bit. I think there are arguments for Rafa and against Rafa. Both sides need to accept it and debate properly rather than revert to name calling or just plain slating each other

[Elvoz]

Talk about getting side-tracked. People need to chill out a bit. I think there are arguments for Rafa and against Rafa. Both sides need to accept it and debate properly rather than revert to name calling or just plain slating each other

back on topic

in an ideal world crouch wants to stay and play

rafa doesnt play him as much as crouch would like
i would love him to stay - seesm a genuine nice fella but he will go

[Skillz]

a toughie for you this one kid so here goes

when rafa bought him none of the others would of

comprende ?

nah your right rafa is god

**** me. Tell me he hasn't quoted himself. Worst WUM ever.

[Skillz]

not read all the thread like

bit unfriendly some of you lot

my opinion cause thats what counts is weve finished 4th

dress it up how ya like but thats not good enough for this newbie

PMSL, that's well funny.

I wonder which forumite you are?