Post Match thread v Everton

[Guest]

The team in Evans era was good enough to win the league. We didn't need more money as we had the players. The players bottled it ... it's been well documented Rashid.

[scully]

Evans Net spend £6.7m a season (at a time when Newcastle were paying £15m for Shearer)

Houllier net spend £11m a season (at a time when Ferguson was spending £30m on Ferdinand and £28m on Veron)

Rafa net spend £20m a season (at a time when United are paying £30m for Berbatov)

All LFC managers look slightly at a disadvantage but Rafa has had more money even taking into account inflation (NET) than any manager in our history.

So I agree, if Evans had more money he would have had a far better go at the league.

This is a very vulgar and simplistic way of assessing a manager's chances and performance. Surely what a manager does with the players, the way he plays them, the performances he gets out of them in conjunction with his other players, his overall tactics and influence is of more relevance?

[Craig_H]

Were we top of the league, won 4 out of 6, beaten two of our fiercest rivals and one of them which are 'supposedly' superior to us ??

You're a freak Rashid.

To be fair fredo, we're not top of the league now either.

[Norbs]

Lets not go there as you are quite obviously not informed and it will just be going over old ground.

**** me, that's the biggest pot kettle black statement ever

[Scratch]

Away from the Rashid factual inaccuracies, can someone clarify Cahill's red card for me...

Was it a straight red for the tackle...which deserved only a yellow in my view

Or was it originally going to be a yellow, but Riley upgraded it for the dissent he showed in walking away when the ref was clearly calling him back??

[Johnny]

The tackle was worth a yellow,walking away from the Ref earned him a Red.

[Craig_H]

It was a nonsense sending off, a yellow card offence and that's it.

[TheElephantMan]

It was a nonsense sending off, a yellow card offence and that's it.

He deserved to go, no question. Players should not turn their back on or walk away from the Referee. It was good refereeing in my opinion, nasty disrespectful *******s like Cahill need to learn to obey the Ref's instructions whether they agree with them or not. Who the **** do these players think they are?

[Scratch]

The tackle was worth a yellow,walking away from the Ref earned him a Red.

Your opinion or the facts tho??

It was a nonsense sending off, a yellow card offence and that's it.

I agree it was a yellow, i said that...but did his reaction afterwards earn him the red, or did Riley balls it up

He deserved to go, no question. Players should not turn their back on or walk away from the Referee. It was good refereeing in my opinion, nasty disrespectful *******s like Cahill need to learn to obey the Ref's instructions whether they agree with them or not. Who the **** do these players think they are?

Again, i agree, but is that the official line, or the one that we're all seeing??

[Shaggy]

Yeah IMO Riley should've booked him for the tackle and then booked him again for walking away.

He should also have been booked for the hefty challenge that prompted Arbeloa to boot him, and also should've been booked for raising his hands to Alvaro's face afterwards.

[Craig_H]

He deserved to go, no question. Players should not turn their back on or walk away from the Referee. It was good refereeing in my opinion, nasty disrespectful *******s like Cahill need to learn to obey the Ref's instructions whether they agree with them or not. Who the **** do these players think they are?

Your opinion of Mascherano's sending off at Old Trafford last season?

I think your opinion, which you're entitled to of course, is influenced by the fact that it was Cahill against us.

If Mascherano or any of our players turned away from the ref, i very much doubt you'd say they should be booked or sent off.

In Cahill's case, it was a straight red, which means he was sent off either JUST for the tackle or JUST for walking away, because you dont get one straight red as an accumulation of two separate offences. It would've been two yellows.

[Craig_H]

I agree it was a yellow, i said that...but did his reaction afterwards earn him the red, or did Riley balls it up

Well if walking away from the ref (without gobbing off, ala Rooney) is a yellow card, then we'll end up with 7 a side in several games.

In my view, that sort of petty attitude from referees spoils games.

[TheElephantMan]

Your opinion of Mascherano's sending off at Old Trafford last season?

The Referee had no choice, but to send him off. Everyone could see that he was going to be sent off, he lost it completely which was stupid, but at least he showed he had passion. Cahill was just being totally disrespectful and as soon as he walked away I felt that the Ref was going to send him off.

[Craig_H]

The Referee had no choice, but to send him off. Everyone could see that he was going to be sent off, he lost it completely which was stupid, but at least he showed he had passion. Cahill was just being totally disrespectful and as soon as he walked away I felt that the Ref was going to send him off.

Well as i said, you're entitled to your opinion dude.

I still feel that if we're booking every player who just runs or walks away, then everyone's going to be picking up yellows right, left and centre. It's a nonsense in my view and i still think that had one of our lot just walked away, quietly without gobbing off, and got booked, we'd be up in arms.

Like i also said, it was a straight red so he was sent off entirely for the tackle or the walking away - neither of which merited a red for me.

[the rev leeroy brown]

i reckon cahill was sent off for the tackle alone. from the refs view ( and from the players positions just after the foul ) it may have apeared that cahill had lunged two-footed at alonso