Post Match thread v Everton

[TheElephantMan]

Well as i said, you're entitled to your opinion dude.

I still feel that if we're booking every player who just runs or walks away, then everyone's going to be picking up yellows right, left and centre. It's a nonsense in my view and i still think that had one of our lot just walked away, quietly without gobbing off, and got booked, we'd be up in arms.

Like i also said, it was a straight red so he was sent off entirely for the tackle or the walking away - neither of which merited a red for me.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

I think players should show respect. Football is the only sport which seems to tolerate disrespect towards the person in charge of the game, it's getting worse and it's time to buck that trend. A few more sendings off might get the message across. Rugby players don't turn their backs or mouth off to the Referee, why can't football players behave themselves? The only way they'll learn is by punishing them and their club.

[Craig_H]

The problem is that the standard has been set whereby walking away from a ref ISNT a sending off, so refs cant just decide to send players off for it.

If they bring this in, it needs to be done in the close season, with a big fuss made over it, so everyone knows where they stand. We'd be furious if someone in our team got sent off for simply walking away from the ref.

[TheElephantMan]

The problem is that the standard has been set whereby walking away from a ref ISNT a sending off, so refs cant just decide to send players off for it.

If they bring this in, it needs to be done in the close season, with a big fuss made over it, so everyone knows where they stand. We'd be furious if someone in our team got sent off for simply walking away from the ref.

It's violent conduct and dissent. Two offences committed within a few seconds. The fact Cahill was snapping at Arbeloa moments before probably contributed to the Referee's decision.

[nbryan1764]

I think it was for the tackle but wondered if it was influenced by his insolence. I think if he had gone straight to Riley it could have been a yellow. Riley was showing he was a ref not be messed with...two ****s together in my opinion

[TheElephantMan]

I think it was for the tackle but wondered if it was influenced by his insolence. I think if he had gone straight to Riley it could have been a yellow. Riley was showing he was a ref not be messed with...two ****s together in my opinion

[Aza]

I will take any win in a derby; good, bad, or just plain fkin jammy

Cahill deserved to be sent off just for his ****e goal celebrations in other matches; get 'im Tufty

10 min's in the sin bin for dissent would soon shut gobby players up

[Scratch]

Well if walking away from the ref (without gobbing off, ala Rooney) is a yellow card, then we'll end up with 7 a side in several games.

In my view, that sort of petty attitude from referees spoils games.

Or, more likely, we'll see a brief spate of bookings, then players and managers alike will realise that they're picking up needless bookings, and will just stand there, take their punishment and walk away.

[MrMichael]

Away from the Rashid factual inaccuracies, can someone clarify Cahill's red card for me...

Was it a straight red for the tackle...which deserved only a yellow in my view

Or was it originally going to be a yellow, but Riley upgraded it for the dissent he showed in walking away when the ref was clearly calling him back??

I thought at the time that the walking away incensed Riley, who then decided to give him a straight red for the tackle. Had he behaved differently I can see that only having been a yellow. Not quite an official "yellow for the tackle and yellow for the dissent", but I wouldn't be surprised if the behaviour influenced the colour eventually shown.

[dww]

I thought at the time that the walking away incensed Riley, who then decided to give him a straight red for the tackle. Had he behaved differently I can see that only having been a yellow. Not quite an official "yellow for the tackle and yellow for the dissent", but I wouldn't be surprised if the behaviour influenced the colour eventually shown.

That's how I read it too.

For me there wasn't much difference between Cahill's challenge and the first from Andy Johnson whihc got him a yellow at the weekend. Nearly all the commentators said there was a good case for AJ being sent off. If you fly in, feet off the ground you give the referee a decision to make and it is really unnecessary and potentially harmful. I think the sending off was justified even though most teams who suffered it would feel aggrieved.

[Craig_H]

It's violent conduct and dissent. Two offences committed within a few seconds. The fact Cahill was snapping at Arbeloa moments before probably contributed to the Referee's decision.

It wasnt violent conduct, it was a mistimed poor tackle.

And if it had been the two offences, it would've been two yellows.

[Craig_H]

I thought at the time that the walking away incensed Riley, who then decided to give him a straight red for the tackle. Had he behaved differently I can see that only having been a yellow. Not quite an official "yellow for the tackle and yellow for the dissent", but I wouldn't be surprised if the behaviour influenced the colour eventually shown.

Did you see Goals on Sunday?

They showed a shot of Riley clearing saying to his assistant, via the mouthpiece "I think i'll show him a red", it was clear as anything, via reading his lips. For some reason, i found it really funny

[Guest]

To be fair fredo, we're not top of the league now either.

We are. Level on points means top of the league. At this point in time goal difference doesn't count. Be positive FFS.

[Craig_H]

We are. Level on points means top of the league. At this point in time goal difference doesn't count. Be positive FFS.

It's not about positive or negative, it's factual mate.

Chelsea are top, we are second. It doesnt mean an awful lot, but that's the fact of the matter.

[Guest]

It's not about positive or negative, it's factual mate.

Chelsea are top, we are second. It doesnt mean an awful lot, but that's the fact of the matter.

So good to piss on other people's chips and try not to be positive. There are some people like that.

[Craig_H]

Like i said mate, it's not about positive or negative, it's just the facts. I live in reality.