"Respecting" Weaker Teams (Plus A Bit of Panto)

[PTP]

These are teams who haven't really bought in new inforcements during the summer yet we were more than capable of beating these teams at a canter. So what has changed? The finger of blame has to be at the manager and the players. The initiative is on the players to force the issue especially at home. We should know how teams are going to set up so why not try something different? Why not use players who are unpredictable? Why not practise set pieces as it could be the only way of scoring against a stubborn defence?

I understand we should be glad we are in this position however there doesn't seem to be an improvement which has been somewhat guaranteed from the fans. Throughout the season so far, we have been far too inconsistent. You might say thats a credit to some of the teams. I personally think, the players get too hyped up in their own imagination and slip up.

don't get me wrong I totally agree, that liverpool as a team should be more adventurous, certainly at home - in fact i was arguing this point yesterday that we need to be prepared to gamble sometimes to go and beat these teams. But just because the 'lesser' teams haven't reinforced financially doesn't automatically mean that they are still **** or as bad as last year - i don't think it's as straight forward as black and white as that, certainly for the 'lesser' sides - these teams are constantly developing coaching and training methods, tactics and set ups, players getting more suited to the teams style of play, confidence growing, form and consistency etc etc etc - there is hundreds of reasons why 'lesser' teams can improve without spending money.


I'm not saying we ain't doing the same, cause we will be, but the demand and pressure for success at the top means these small changes behind the scenes don't make as much as an impact on the top four sides cause the margin for improvement is less. If (this a purely hypothetical example) say last season, Fulham had a **** midfield but they can't go out and buy anyone, it's easier for them to work hard on the midfield they have. Change tactics or set up to accommodate what they do have etc to improve some how - were as the big four, the only way they can improve is going out and buying a better player for the job.

[Tee]

So Voz, 2 pages of this crap to decide you agree with what I said in the first place.

[kev776]

to win the league we have to beat the so called weaker teams at home. simple as that. only reason we are top is because our rivals are slipping up too.

Perhaps if we are all slipping up against these teams, maybe the are not so weak afterall, we dont have the monopoly on being the best, they are all trying to get there.

The gap is not as wide as the press makes out.

[rage]

its funny how we only talk about respecting teams when we fail to beat them!

what a ****e excuse.

[Elvoz]

its funny how we only talk about respecting teams when we fail to beat them!

what a ****e excuse.

the pc lot love everybody fella

[Sarb]

its funny how we only talk about respecting teams when we fail to beat them!

what a ****e excuse.

Lol

[Craig_H]

Perhaps if we are all slipping up against these teams, maybe the are not so weak afterall, we dont have the monopoly on being the best, they are all trying to get there.

The gap is not as wide as the press makes out.

They're not like Derby last year, no.

But even if they're a bit better, we're still lightyears better than Hull, Stoke etc.

I cant believe anyone would dispute that. The message seems to be 'these sides arent that bad so maybe we shouldnt expect to beat them'. Well i find that not only nonsensical, but also insulting to LFC. We're one of the best sides in europe and if we cant expect to comfortably beat lesser sides at Anfield, then we may as well pack up and go home.

[Elvoz]

They're not like Derby last year, no.

But even if they're a bit better, we're still lightyears better than Hull, Stoke etc.

I cant believe anyone would dispute that. The message seems to be 'these sides arent that bad so maybe we shouldnt expect to beat them'. Well i find that not only nonsensical, but also insulting to LFC. We're one of the best sides in europe and if we cant expect to comfortably beat lesser sides at Anfield, then we may as well pack up and go home.

its safe to assume we are talking a different language to people on here craig
i think we best "respect" their opinions

[Craig_H]

its safe to assume we are talking a different language to people on here craig
i think we best "respect" their opinions

Thing is though, nobody would be saying 'oh but the gap is smaller now, these sides are actually decent teams' if we were beating them.

It's the excuse-finding culture, leading people to try and think of any explaination they can, rather than face the reality that we've actually not been good enough at home this season.

I mean, even the Boro and Wigan wins were hardly convincing.

Of our 9 home games, we've won 2 convincingly (WBA and Man Utd), we beat Pompey largely due to a peno, won 2 others with a shade of fortune and drawn against 4 average (at best) sides.

It's simply not convincing.

[Sarb]

I think some people try to find comfort in our inability to beat poor teams at home in their own way. To be honest, I used to be like that as well. I used to sit there and think 'It's okay we drew because no one pulled away from us', 'so what we dropped points to Fulham, hopefully they'll take points off the top 3', 'the teams can't be that bad if they held us at home', etc etc etc.

When you spend £30m on attacking players in the Summer, £30m plus on attacking players the previous summer, there isn't any respecting teams like Stoke and Fulham at home or away. You need to wipe the floor with these teams. Simple as. I made this point weeks ago when we missed chances in games like at Bolton and before that. I said we didn't have a ruthless mentality to finish teams off, not just by one or two goals but four or five with the amount of sitters we miss. We don't have a ruthless mentality and that's shining through now

To turn around and now say we respect weaker teams is laughable.

[Elvoz]

Thing is though, nobody would be saying 'oh but the gap is smaller now, these sides are actually decent teams' if we were beating them.

It's the excuse-finding culture, leading people to try and think of any explaination they can, rather than face the reality that we've actually not been good enough at home this season.

I mean, even the Boro and Wigan wins were hardly convincing.

Of our 9 home games, we've won 2 convincingly (WBA and Man Utd), we beat Pompey largely due to a peno, won 2 others with a shade of fortune and drawn 4.

It's simply not convincing.

the manure game we got a lucky break when imo we never looked like getting
one

im starting to think going these games is giving me a disadvantage here

[Nicey]

its safe to assume we are talking a different language to people on here craig
i think we best "respect" their opinions

What a load of bollix .. So basically Real Madird, AC Milan etc dont get turned over by small teams ..for the love of Horus get your head out of your ****ing arse

[Elvoz]

What a load of bollix .. So basically Real Madird, AC Milan etc dont get turned over by small teams ..for the love of Horus get your head out of your ****ing arse

i used to think you had a bit of an idea mate tbh

now i know i was wrong

[Sarb]

Nicey, League Champions don't drop points against average teams at home as regularly and consistently as we do.

We don't have a ruthless mentality in the team and are never set up to go and hammer teams either

[Elvoz]

Nicey, League Champions don't drop points against average teams at home as regularly and consistently as we do.

We don't have a ruthless mentality in the team and are never set up to go and hammer teams either

wasting your time mate he hasnt got a clue