Allardyce bitching about Rafa AGAIN

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[Aza]

Quality of the highest order

[ukfootballfan101]

96%!!

[ukfootballfan101]

has anyone read this?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1171831/So-Allardyce-really-offended-Rafas-hand-gestures-.html?ITO=1490

Sammy Lee had a long chat with Fat f**king Sam after the game over a few beers and he never said a word about any gestures or any problem he had with Rafa during the game, considering Sam and Sammy go way back I think thats a bit strange...Sorry I forgot for a second that this is all BS for auld wiskey nose..

[Joey Jones]

Classic

[MrMichael]

flmao.

[Shaggy]

Sunday Supplement journos, including Manc-centrics such as Neil Custis, all openly laughed at those two clowns.

[Frenchie]

All of the media believe that they have colluded and have got it wrong, they have been dismissed without Rafa having to reply.

I really hope that Rafa seeks advice and takes the morale high ground, job done..

The attack (Facht) on Slur A back at Xmas was perceived as a mistake, I believe it was a masterstroke that has culminated in these bleedin' heart comments from the two old ladies in that earlier photo (which made me nose spray my tea on to the sunday rags

[anfieldanfield]

Rafa shouldn't say a word until after we beat Arsenal.

[Joey Jones]

Sunday Supplement journos, including Manc-centrics such as Neil Custis, all openly laughed at those two clowns.

Managerial mafia

Fergie and Big Sam ganging up on poor Rafa, says Holt

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_5195936,00.html

Oliver Holt accused Sir Alex Ferguson and Sam Allardyce of ganging up on Rafa Benitez.

Both the Manchester United and Blackburn Rovers managers have taken a swipe at the Spaniard for a gesture he made in last weekend's win over the latter.

After Fernando Torres headed Liverpool into a 2-0 lead from a long free-kick from Xabi Alonso, Benitez was seen to make a cross-armed motion, as if to signal the end of something.

The Reds boss has since revealed he was telling Alonso not to listen to him because he had called for the free-kick to be taken short.

Allardyce though, insists the gesture meant the game was over and on Friday blasted the gesture as 'undermining', 'srespectful and quite humiliating'. Ferguson then waded into the row to support his old mate, labelling Benitez's behaviour as 'beyond the pale'.

The Sunday Supplement panel agreed that Benitez had done nothing wrong, but Holt believes the fall-out may have far-reaching roots.

"The gesture is open to interpretation what he meant," he said. "If we're talking about contempt, even if it was a contemptuous, let's not forget some of the stuff Allardyce and Ferguson have said, for instance, about Arsene Wenger in that way.

Contempt

"There's plenty of issues of contempt between managers in the Premier League. They're all big boys and they can deal with it.

"The idea that Sam Allardyce was hurt and confused by what Rafa did was laughable."

"They (Ferguson and Allardyce) have the same enemies, in the past Allardyce has big digs at Wenger and look even if at Phil Brown, who is obviously associated closely with Sam, has had run in with Wenger earlier in the season. There's a lot of bad blood between those guys and Ferguson's enemies."

Holt also refused to accept that is damaging to the game to have high-profile managers at each other's throats in public.

Ferguson and Benitez have had an unhealthy relationship since the Spaniard went on his infamous rant about United before Christmas - a rant which coincided with his side's Premier League slump.

And while he feels he is the victim in the latest round of bickering, Holt believes Benitez might yet win the mind games.

Outsider

"I think Benitez started it just before Christmas with that quite astonishing outburst about Ferguson and those 'facts'," he said.

"I think what Benitez is trying to do a little bit is what Ferguson did at Aberdeen; he's trying to position himself as an outsider, to get a little bit of siege mentality going at Liverpool - everybody else is against us. And it's working.

"In a way Ferguson and Sam Allardyce this week will probably play right into his hands because he'll be able to say to his players 'look, there's a whole gang of them ganging up on us'.

"Again, I thought it was quite amusing how hurt they were by him. I don't know how Sam Allardyce managed to keep a straight face!

"Benitez did start it to be fair to Ferguson. He came out just before Christmas with these facts, it's interesting the way Benitez timed that, that wasn't Fergie coming at him. I thought Ferguson was generally taken aback by the vitriol.

"But they're all big boys..."

[Shaggy]

It's beyond the pale

[Leyton388]

It's beyond the pale

I want that as my Avatar!!! Think the mods should give everyone it for 24hrs!!!

[Joe King]

Lesson of the weekend: Don't talk about Benitez otherwise you will lose.

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anyone with RedCafe acces - PLEASE POST!

[Leyton388]

Lesson of the weekend: Don't talk about Benitez otherwise you will lose.

Rafa is the puppet master!!!!!