Are we better than Man Utd?

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What do you mean better? First team better? Squad better?

What do you mean 'What do you mean'?

[DannyMan2006]

I voted no.

They're doing better than us in every single competition at time or writing and that tells it's own story.

Having said that I think our first XI is better, as proved by the big 4 mini league.

[Charly]

No. They are better in several areas, especially wings and fullbacks, and up front we cant compare. They have many players who can win games And they play better as a team, and have a much deeper squad.

That said, we are not far off, and we have a better 1st eleven.

[stuartb]

First team - we are every bit as good, if not better

Squad - we arent even close

[MrMichael]

I said yes because i dont want to go to hell.

I've been thinking about this one, and I've decided the above is undoubtedly the correct answer to this specific question.

So on that basis I vote yes too.

[Shaggy]

No. They are better in several areas, especially wings and fullbacks, and up front we cant compare. They have many players who can win games And they play better as a team, and have a much deeper squad.

That said, we are not far off, and we have a better 1st eleven.

Up front we can't compare?

We have the best striker in the world with Steven Gerrard playing off him. Yes we don't have much in depth but the Mancs have a £32m flop in Berbatov (booed by his own fans yesterday) and Tevez, who the majority of Mancs do not want to sign permanently. Tevez has scored 3 league goals this season. Three.

That leaves Rooney, who's a good player but as we all know wildly overrated and not prolific.

[red g]

Up front we can't compare?

We have the best striker in the world with Steven Gerrard playing off him. Yes we don't have much in depth but the Mancs have a £32m flop in Berbatov (booed by his own fans yesterday) and Tevez, who the majority of Mancs do not want to sign permanently. Tevez has scored 3 league goals this season. Three.

That leaves Rooney, who's a good player but as we all know wildly overrated and not prolific.

dont forget macheda ......the teenage prodigy how much are the commentators bigging up this 'wonderkid' thought that welbeck was ****e as well

and as regards your point think when you put it as gerrard and torres up front best front combo in the world

[Pippo]

No, not yet.



Soon.

[Redspin]

Well they're a point ahead, with a game in hand - so that's a stronger argument than '5 more goals'.

The response was directly to a claim that they were stronger "in attacking positions". 5 goals fewer does not, I repeat, demonstrate that they are stronger in attacking positions, quite the opposite. That we have scored more goals than them while our main striker has missed nearly half the league season would tend to show that we are stronger in attacking positions

[Neil Young]

The response was directly to a claim that they were stronger "in attacking positions". 5 goals fewer does not, I repeat, demonstrate that they are stronger in attacking positions, quite the opposite. That we have scored more goals than them while our main striker has missed nearly half the league season would tend to show that we are stronger in attacking positions

It doesn't really show that. It shows we have a better goal difference than them.

There could be any number of reasons for that and although your suggestion is less fanciful than most there is no way of knowing whether their squad would have been even better with Rafa's tactical input or Alonso's passing or whatever. In short I don't think you can discount Craig's argument just like he can't discount yours.

[Redspin]

Up front we can't compare?

We have the best striker in the world with Steven Gerrard playing off him. Yes we don't have much in depth but the Mancs have a £32m flop in Berbatov (booed by his own fans yesterday) and Tevez, who the majority of Mancs do not want to sign permanently. Tevez has scored 3 league goals this season. Three.

That leaves Rooney, who's a good player but as we all know wildly overrated and not prolific.

Well said. Rooney - hailed as the new Maradona when he came onto the scene - has managed to score just one more league goal this season than our oft-criticised (by the mentally feeble fan element) RM, Dirk Kuyt.

[Pacman]

I said no because at this moment in time I think the scum have a better squad than we do.

11 vs 11 I'd fancy us against any team in the world as long as all our lads were fit.

We are getting there, each season we are starting to turn the screw and get better and better and Rafa is good enough to take Fergie on and win.

We need to add one or 2 more first team quality players now each summer and I honestly believe we will knock those ****ers off their perch and restore order.

[Redspin]

It doesn't really show that. It shows we have a better goal difference than them.

There could be any number of reasons for that and although your suggestion is less fanciful than most there is no way of knowing whether their squad would have been even better with Rafa's tactical input or Alonso's passing or whatever. In short I don't think you can discount Craig's argument just like he can't discount yours.

If you look again I think you'll find that we have actually scored more league goals than them (59 to 54) as well as having a better goal difference (38 to 33).

There is also a huge disparity in their goal scoring record depending on playing home or away. They have only scored 20 goals in 16 away games. If you take away the 5 they got at WBA (no big deal as the league's whipping boys have conceded 63 goals this season) they have only scored 15 goals in their other 15 away games.

I find it very easy to discount Craig's argument

[Neil Young]

If you look again I think you'll find that we have actually scored more league goals than them (59 to 54) as well as having a better goal difference (38 to 33).

There is also a huge disparity in their goal scoring record depending on playing home or away. They have only scored 20 goals in 16 away games. If you take away the 5 they got at WBA (no big deal as the league's whipping boys have conceded 63 goals this season) they have only scored 15 goals in their other 15 away games.

I find it very easy to discount Craig's argument

That doesn't make it right. It's just one interpretation of the available facts.

And now you've started fixing the stats to make your interpretation appear more persuasive.

[red g]

That doesn't make it right. It's just one interpretation of the available facts.

And now you've started fixing the stats to make your interpretation appear more persuasive.

fantastic redspin on it though, i shall be using that for manc bashing later