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    #61
    Originally posted by red g View Post
    fantastic redspin on it though, i shall be using that for manc bashing later


    I didn't notice his username. Now I can see he knew all along what he was doing.

    I've been played like a kipper.
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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



    May the Lord bless this post.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Redspin View Post
      The response was directly to a claim that they were stronger "in attacking positions". 5 goals fewer does not, I repeat, demonstrate that they are stronger in attacking positions, quite the opposite. That we have scored more goals than them while our main striker has missed nearly half the league season would tend to show that we are stronger in attacking positions
      Fair enough.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Redspin View Post
        If you look again I think you'll find that we have actually scored more league goals than them (59 to 54) as well as having a better goal difference (38 to 33).

        There is also a huge disparity in their goal scoring record depending on playing home or away. They have only scored 20 goals in 16 away games. If you take away the 5 they got at WBA (no big deal as the league's whipping boys have conceded 63 goals this season) they have only scored 15 goals in their other 15 away games.

        I find it very easy to discount Craig's argument
        My argument was never that they're better than us in a goalscoring sense.

        Overall though, we've got 2 players capable of scoring lots of goals for us, they have 4. You can certainly question how well each respective front line is performing, and it's beyond doubt that our pair of SG & FT have performed better this season.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          My argument was never that they're better than us in a goalscoring sense.

          Overall though, we've got 2 players capable of scoring lots of goals for us, they have 4. You can certainly question how well each respective front line is performing, and it's beyond doubt that our pair of SG & FT have performed better this season.
          which 4?

          because as far as i can see 'lots of goals' = Ronaldo and we have stevie G and torres

          a few goals = rooney, berbatov and tevez and we have Kuyt.
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          Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

          Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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            #65
            Originally posted by red g View Post
            which 4?

            because as far as i can see 'lots of goals' = Ronaldo and we have stevie G and torres

            a few goals = rooney, berbatov and tevez and we have Kuyt.
            So you're saying Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez arent capable of getting 20-25 goals in all comps? Dont be silly.

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              #66
              id prefer to answer yes if we won the league

              if we dont we arent - simple as

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                #68
                Rafael Benítez has waded into another potential feud with Sir Alex Ferguson by mischievously suggesting that the Manchester United manager recognises that "Liverpool are the better side". The Spaniard, whose verbal exchanges with Ferguson have become a regular feature in this season's title race, also claimed that the United manager thinks he has a "licence" to play mind games with his rivals because he makes his remarks without fear of being challenged.

                "I'm not having a battle of words with Alex Ferguson," Benítez said in an interview with his hometown newspaper, ABC. "But I believe that he can see that we are the better side, and that we are very close to United. He has been accustomed to playing these types of mind games for many years. Nobody has ever said anything against him, or stood up to him, as he has a very good team that can win *trophies. It seems like he has a licence to do these sorts of things."

                The Liverpool manager, whose side trail United by three points and have played a game more, has emphasised how important it is for his players to continue to believe that the Premier League title is not out of their reach despite Tuesday night's remarkable 4–4 draw with Arsenal at Anfield. "It is essential for us to try to keep the pressure on United," Benítez added. "We must not slacken off, and if we keep going that will make them feel under pressure."

                In a move set to further antagonise Ferguson, Liverpool are rumoured to be among a host of clubs pursuing United's Argentine striker Carlos Tévez.

                United, meanwhile, received some welcome news when it emerged that Wes Brown, who has not played since the end of January because of a foot injury, could be available for Tottenham's visit tomorrow to ease a potential injury crisis. Gary Neville and John O'Shea both limped off during the 2–0 victory over Portsmouth at Old Trafford on Wednesday night and Ferguson anticipates that the duo will be forced to spend "the next few weeks" on the sidelines.

                Brown reported no problems after playing an hour of a reserves game at Preston North End on Monday and last night he appeared for the first half of the reserves' 1–1 draw against Newcastle at Moss Lane. Should he suffer no reaction, it is likely the England international, who has started only five Premier League games this season,will be drafted into the squad for the Spurs game. "Wes is fine. He is training hard and should be OK for the weekend," said the United assistant manager, Mike Phelan.

                The outlook for Neville and O'Shea is less clear. O'Shea hurt his ankle following a late tackle by Nadir Belhadj and was due to be assessed by United's medical staff yesterday, while Phelan admitted Neville was "struggling" after the full-back took a blow on the inside of the foot that required stitches.

                One consolation for Ferguson is that Rio Ferdinand will be able to return to the side after sitting out the Portsmouth match as a precaution following his recent return from a groin injury.

                United's win against Portsmouth was the third in succession in the Premier League following the back-to-back defeats that had threatened to derail their pursuit of an 18th league title. The first of those victories came in dramatic fashion after the teenage substitute Federico Macheda scored an injury-time winner against Aston Villa, a goal Michael Carrick believes was crucial in shifting the title race momentum from Anfield to Old Trafford.

                "Sometimes in a season you get a feeling that one moment is going to make all the difference," said the England midfielder, who scored United's second goal on Wednesday night. "Aston Villa was one of them. It was a huge win. At that point people wouldn't have given us much hope. Getting a victory that day gave a massive lift to everyone and since then things have gone pretty well."

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                  #69
                  Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                  Rafael Benítez has waded into another potential feud with Sir Alex Ferguson by mischievously suggesting that the Manchester United manager recognises that "Liverpool are the better side". The Spaniard, whose verbal exchanges with Ferguson have become a regular feature in this season's title race, also claimed that the United manager thinks he has a "licence" to play mind games with his rivals because he makes his remarks without fear of being challenged.

                  "I'm not having a battle of words with Alex Ferguson," Benítez said in an interview with his hometown newspaper, ABC. "But I believe that he can see that we are the better side, and that we are very close to United. He has been accustomed to playing these types of mind games for many years. Nobody has ever said anything against him, or stood up to him, as he has a very good team that can win *trophies. It seems like he has a licence to do these sorts of things."

                  The Liverpool manager, whose side trail United by three points and have played a game more, has emphasised how important it is for his players to continue to believe that the Premier League title is not out of their reach despite Tuesday night's remarkable 4–4 draw with Arsenal at Anfield. "It is essential for us to try to keep the pressure on United," Benítez added. "We must not slacken off, and if we keep going that will make them feel under pressure."

                  In a move set to further antagonise Ferguson, Liverpool are rumoured to be among a host of clubs pursuing United's Argentine striker Carlos Tévez.

                  United, meanwhile, received some welcome news when it emerged that Wes Brown, who has not played since the end of January because of a foot injury, could be available for Tottenham's visit tomorrow to ease a potential injury crisis. Gary Neville and John O'Shea both limped off during the 2–0 victory over Portsmouth at Old Trafford on Wednesday night and Ferguson anticipates that the duo will be forced to spend "the next few weeks" on the sidelines.

                  Brown reported no problems after playing an hour of a reserves game at Preston North End on Monday and last night he appeared for the first half of the reserves' 1–1 draw against Newcastle at Moss Lane. Should he suffer no reaction, it is likely the England international, who has started only five Premier League games this season,will be drafted into the squad for the Spurs game. "Wes is fine. He is training hard and should be OK for the weekend," said the United assistant manager, Mike Phelan.

                  The outlook for Neville and O'Shea is less clear. O'Shea hurt his ankle following a late tackle by Nadir Belhadj and was due to be assessed by United's medical staff yesterday, while Phelan admitted Neville was "struggling" after the full-back took a blow on the inside of the foot that required stitches.

                  One consolation for Ferguson is that Rio Ferdinand will be able to return to the side after sitting out the Portsmouth match as a precaution following his recent return from a groin injury.

                  United's win against Portsmouth was the third in succession in the Premier League following the back-to-back defeats that had threatened to derail their pursuit of an 18th league title. The first of those victories came in dramatic fashion after the teenage substitute Federico Macheda scored an injury-time winner against Aston Villa, a goal Michael Carrick believes was crucial in shifting the title race momentum from Anfield to Old Trafford.

                  "Sometimes in a season you get a feeling that one moment is going to make all the difference," said the England midfielder, who scored United's second goal on Wednesday night. "Aston Villa was one of them. It was a huge win. At that point people wouldn't have given us much hope. Getting a victory that day gave a massive lift to everyone and since then things have gone pretty well."

                  "But I believe that he can see that we are the better side, and that we are very close to United"

                  "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

                  I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

                  FatTony 24/08/09

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                    #70
                    Probably another lost in translation job.
                    Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                      #71
                      If you add "at the moment" to that then it is perfectly reasonable.

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                        #72
                        We are the beter side. We lost the title this year and next year we wont make the same stupid mistakes. We will win the league next year for sure and we may still do this year!
                        RAFA

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                          #73
                          Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home" - May 2002

                          arsene wenger

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                            #74
                            Originally posted by Elvoz View Post
                            Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home" - May 2002

                            arsene wenger
                            I don't.
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                              #75
                              Originally posted by FatTony View Post
                              "But I believe that he can see that we are the better side, and that we are very close to United"
                              What's the confusion? Better side, close to them in the league. Sounds pretty simple.
                              Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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