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    #31
    Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
    Then the English should get better at football and they could be on the bench.
    english lads allways get the bum deal for some reason they allways push for the foreign players and the english get left behindi think when a non english player gets brought in someone at high level has to agree to the fee,you cant tell me that a coach then somewhere in the academy or mellwood will question the buy ,they want to hold onto there job your not going to not play that player when big money has been payed ive watched many a game and the public ask why or what were certain players doing on the pitch yet when the coaches have there say after the game they make out they were class
    you have to scratch your head sometimes

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      #32
      Originally posted by lfc for life View Post
      english lads allways get the bum deal for some reason they allways push for the foreign players and the english get left behindi think when a non english player gets brought in someone at high level has to agree to the fee,you cant tell me that a coach then somewhere in the academy or mellwood will question the buy ,they want to hold onto there job your not going to not play that player when big money has been payed ive watched many a game and the public ask why or what were certain players doing on the pitch yet when the coaches have there say after the game they make out they were class
      you have to scratch your head sometimes
      Or it could be that there are not enough English players of good enough quality because the grass roots training in this country is designed at present to make a footballer suited to the second division.

      Where a player is from is irrelevant, how good they are is the important thing.
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        #33
        Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
        Or it could be that there are not enough English players of good enough quality because the grass roots training in this country is designed at present to make a footballer suited to the second division.

        Where a player is from is irrelevant, how good they are is the important thing.
        i do agree with what you are saying but do you see foreign clubs flooded with english players at say acad level no they push there own players on to make,mould them into skillful players ,all im saying like everyone else the way things are going our england side wont be good for anything
        the new ruleing about home grown players there has to be at least 4 i think in each side, so what are clubs doing they are bring foreign players in at 14 keeping them at the club till there 18 or so and saying they are classed as english players because they have been here for 4 yearsive seen a english player whos been let go from a club because his face did not fit with the clicky staff they have now spent nearly half a millon on two foreign players to replace him and are still looking to buy another one because they cant get a player as good as they let go,i think clubs have got to have this image of foreign names on the books,it looks good with the press,tv,you cant tell me stevie or jamie are not the main duo of Liverpool,or rooney or gigs of man u i do like to watch the odd foreign player in a team as they bring a different style to the game ,but not spot the english player,im sick of seeing an english lad go thru four players and not get a mention,then a foreign lad makes one pass falls over on a bit of raised grass blames his marker whos six foot away and gets a standing ovation from the benchwatch a game closely pick a foreign and a english lad to watch ,then watch and listen to the coverage from the commentators and the coaches you might be surprised

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          #34
          Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
          Or it could be that there are not enough English players of good enough quality because the grass roots training in this country is designed at present to make a footballer suited to the second division.

          Where a player is from is irrelevant, how good they are is the important thing.
          Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger's tendency to favour little-known teenage talent from France's Ligue 1 has today received severe criticism from Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, who has accused the north London club of "child trafficking".

          The French boss has been press-linked with the Bayern hotseat following the departure of former fallen boss Juergen Klinsmann, but these latest comments from Rummenigge will sour any relations between the two clubs.


          Speaking to Sport-Bild, Rummenigge expressed, "Arsene Wenger signs hosts of players from France and elsewhere year-in year-out.

          "We have to take care that this sort of child trafficking is stopped.

          "This has taken on a different scale in the meantime; the word kidnapping is not too far off anymore," he declared.

          Highlighting the coup of landing Cesc Fabregas in 2003 as an easy-influenced 15-year-old, Rummenigge added, "Fabregas is really the best example for this.

          "He signed from Barcelona at the age of 15 on a free transfer, just because he was about to sign a contract at the age of 16," he concluded.

          German Perspective

          The editor of Goal.com Germany, Nils Reschke, tells us that Rummenigge is an advocate of legal change in football transfers.

          "He talks about the law," explained Nils.

          "Arsenal were able to get Fabregas for free because he was 15; at 16 he would require a contract.

          "To prevent this, Rummenigge want a homegrown players rule in European leagues, similar to the one that exists in UEFA competitions.

          "Basically, that's the 4+4 rule, in which every squad must have eight players - including four of them on the field - of which, if they are between 15 and 21 years of age, they have played in that country already for at least three years.


          "Of course, this is independent of their nationality. Players can be born anywhere or own any passport, as long as they've served their time."

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