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    #16
    Originally posted by Nicey View Post
    Seems like an awfully nice chap ... best thing about Rugby is you can stamp on ones knuts and shakes ones hand afterwards
    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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      #17
      There seem to be some rumours going round even the more serious minded parts of the internet with regards to Purslows role at the club. Make of this (shamelessly robbed from elsewhere) what you will. Personally I think it seems like a well constructed theory based on a few known facts but nonetheless speculative. Not sure why Rafa would be happy with the situation just because it was the banks rather than G&H who were holding the purse strings though.

      Liverpool FC - already in informal administration?
      Taken from elsewhere:

      "There's a discussion elsewhere that we are already in "informal administration"

      That the terms of the new loan are more akin to that of an "overdraft" and that Purslow (a reported RBS appointment) and the banks now have the right of veto on any and all major financial transactions

      IF this is true and I suggest IF (with a great deal of suspicion) then it does explain an awful lot

      1) Purslow virtually doing the day to day running of the club
      2) No appointment of a new CEO
      3) Lack of transfer funds
      4) Rafa not stamping his feet with regards to a lack of funds

      IF formal administration happens

      It will mean points deductions, barring from ALL UEFA tournaments next year and possible expulsion from the Champions League this season"

      I'm sure some of you read various football forums and have seen this elsewhere, but make of it what you will. Came from a relaible poster.
      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
      -- William Blake

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        #18
        IF true then clearly Rafa would get on with because he has affection for the club and the fans.

        Wish someone would convince those ****ers to sell ffs

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          #19
          What does being in 'Administration' mean?

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            #20
            Originally posted by fredo View Post
            What does being in 'Administration' mean?
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administration_(insolvency)
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              #21
              The trouble with that theory is that it entirely fails to explain why Rafa hasn't walked already.

              That's why I don't believe it as in those circumstances I think he'd be off like a shot.
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              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



              May the Lord bless this post.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                The trouble with that theory is that it entirely fails to explain why Rafa hasn't walked already.

                That's why I don't believe it as in those circumstances I think he'd be off like a shot.
                Not many other top jobs available in Europe at this point in time.

                But he may feel that this situation can not last and feels that the Yanks will sell up sooner rather than later. I bet he'd be gutted if he quit only for some mega rich owner to come in and start throwing money at the club. Besides, he seems very settled and is getting to run the club as he sees fit.
                Forwards.......

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                  Not many other top jobs available in Europe at this point in time.

                  But he may feel that this situation can not last and feels that the Yanks will sell up sooner rather than later. I bet he'd be gutted if he quit only for some mega rich owner to come in and start throwing money at the club. Besides, he seems very settled and is getting to run the club as he sees fit.
                  I don't think the top jobs thing is an issue.

                  I'd agree that the rest could be a factor but I just reckon if he thought we couldn't compete it would trump anything else (except perhaps for the 'joker' of a takeover).





                  I've just had to delete loads more card-related puns so you got off lightly.
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                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                    #24
                    My feeling is that Rafa knew he would have a constrained budget but that our squad from last year was good enough given the lack of strengthening elsewhere to challenge. His actions in terms of the reserves/academy and contracts to top players indicate that he feels that we are a long term project and that he judged that now was the time that he had the power and opportunity to put the money into a project that may take several years to produce results. Something he might not get the chance to do elsewhere.

                    Unfortunately we have had a couple of bad results but I do think we have solid foundations on the footballing side at least. While I'm no fan of our owners they have boosted revenues and as long as they can keep us afloat their new policy of giving control to Rafa means that I think we will be okay long term. Obviously it would be nice if we could get more responsible owners who didn't require that money constantly be paid to the bank but that is a far from unique situation (see United for example).
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      #25
                      I can see that. It depends how constrained the financial situation, as posited by the theory, is. I understood it as being more constrained than Rafa had been led to believe. If he hasn't been misled then clearly he has no real reason to up and leave.
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                        I can see that. It depends how constrained the financial situation, as posited by the theory, is. I understood it as being more constrained than Rafa had been led to believe. If he hasn't been misled then clearly he has no real reason to up and leave.
                        I'm yet to be convinced there is any evidence of this. Rafa has seemed to talk much less in terms of someone who feels he is being held back recently. Previously he has always talked about the number of £20m players at say Chelsea or United in what seemed an obvious attempt to pressure more money from above. That hasn't happened and the one thing we are reasonably certain of is that he was offered more control of his budget. If he felt that there hadn't been a change or his parameters of operation had changed why wouldn't he say something as he has in the past?

                        The fact he hasn't upped and left is one of the reasons I feel it is unlikely that he has been lied to on the level that has been portrayed in the media and seems the basis of the rumour I posted above.
                        "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                        -- William Blake

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          I've just had to delete loads more card-related puns so you got off lightly.


                          Forwards.......

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by dww View Post
                            I'm yet to be convinced there is any evidence of this. Rafa has seemed to talk much less in terms of someone who feels he is being held back recently. Previously he has always talked about the number of £20m players at say Chelsea or United in what seemed an obvious attempt to pressure more money from above. That hasn't happened and the one thing we are reasonably certain of is that he was offered more control of his budget. If he felt that there hadn't been a change or his parameters of operation had changed why wouldn't he say something as he has in the past?

                            The fact he hasn't upped and left is one of the reasons I feel it is unlikely that he has been lied to on the level that has been portrayed in the media and seems the basis of the rumour I posted above.


                            That's how I read the rumour and your demolition of the theory does explain why he's still at LFC.
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                            May the Lord bless this post.

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                              #29
                              My actual feeling on all this is that Rafa thinks he has improved the team over last year. I think he has a clear idea involving Aquilani that he thinks will improve the team and the addition of Johnson is of course another plus.

                              I have confidence in Rafa and for that reason I am keeping my council and waiting to see how things develop on the pitch once Aquilani and Agger return. We just have to make sure we don't slip any further behind the leaders over the coming weeks.
                              Forwards.......

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by dww View Post
                                I'm yet to be convinced there is any evidence of this. Rafa has seemed to talk much less in terms of someone who feels he is being held back recently. Previously he has always talked about the number of £20m players at say Chelsea or United in what seemed an obvious attempt to pressure more money from above. That hasn't happened and the one thing we are reasonably certain of is that he was offered more control of his budget. If he felt that there hadn't been a change or his parameters of operation had changed why wouldn't he say something as he has in the past?

                                The fact he hasn't upped and left is one of the reasons I feel it is unlikely that he has been lied to on the level that has been portrayed in the media and seems the basis of the rumour I posted above.
                                After his rather public spat with the owners when they arrived, I'd be very surprised if they hadn't told him to keep personal issues out of the public domain. They are his employers, after all.
                                "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough."

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