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    the team formation, the team selection and the players wearing out shirt are all down to rafa.

    Any other manager would now take off dossena or kuyt and bring on ngog or babel but lets see what rafa does in around the 60 minute mark.

    The lack of desire and fight come from the manager - the players just follow his lead.

    This team needs to be rebuilt and the next manager will have his work cut out big time. We have too many defenders, not a single winger and only one striker.
    [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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      Originally posted by calvoboy View Post
      We are getting nothing from refs this season, and the fat bald headed ****** today is no exception. If he hadn't been missing every foul on our players, perhaps Mascher wouldn't have lost it and tried to take retribution himself. Useless refereeing again. Happened too often against us so far this season. Beach ball goal that should have been disallowed, Gerrard penalty against Arsenal....even in games we won we've had nothing e.g. Howard Webb against the Mancs.
      I don't think you can really put it down to refs, it happens to all teams at some point during a season. You can't put it down to luck either as again all teams have or don't have luck throughout the season. The sad fact of the matter is, at this moment in time or in actual fact all season, we are a very poor team or to be slightly fairer on our lot, we are playing very poor this season.

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        Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
        I think the most glaring thing about today's performance is Gerrard. Looks like a total ****house. No heart, no desire. He gets the ball, loses it, and just strides along like nothing happened. What the **** is wrong with him. If he's not fit, he shouldn't be playing.
        Very poor from Stevie, hes lost his mojo this season.

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          What the **** Why is this happening. Why can't we just win FFS
          Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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            Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
            I think the most glaring thing about today's performance is Gerrard. Looks like a total ****house. No heart, no desire. He gets the ball, loses it, and just strides along like nothing happened. What the **** is wrong with him. If he's not fit, he shouldn't be playing.
            Yep. Same as Wednesday night. Don't know what's wrong with him but it's not what we need from our captain at the moment.

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              Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
              I think the most glaring thing about today's performance is Gerrard. Looks like a total ****house. No heart, no desire. He gets the ball, loses it, and just strides along like nothing happened. What the **** is wrong with him. If he's not fit, he shouldn't be playing.
              whats even worse is we simply have nobody else to play instead of him, he doesn't look like his hearts in it thats for sure.. needs to take a serious look at himself, torres might not be having the greatest game but just look at the way he chased back won the ball carried it over half the pitch and won a corner!
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                Originally posted by el matador View Post
                the team formation, the team selection and the players wearing out shirt are all down to rafa.

                Any other manager would now take off dossena or kuyt and bring on ngog or babel but lets see what rafa does in around the 60 minute mark.

                The lack of desire and fight come from the manager - the players just follow his lead.

                This team needs to be rebuilt and the next manager will have his work cut out big time. We have too many defenders, not a single winger and only one striker.

                ah yes the winger argument.. waht teams have out and out wingers anymore?

                riera is nearest to one as hugs the touchline, but the days of matthews etc are gone

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                  Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                  I think the most glaring thing about today's performance is Gerrard. Looks like a total ****house. No heart, no desire. He gets the ball, loses it, and just strides along like nothing happened. What the **** is wrong with him. If he's not fit, he shouldn't be playing.
                  perhaps he's found out his missus is ****ing around, perhaps the old gangsters are back, perhaps he's cold, fed up, not getting enough etc etc

                  ****ing hell he's a sulky cunt. there's always something playing on his mind.

                  He needs to tell rafa to shut the **** up and do the teamtalk himself. he needs to get the players fired up. he should say to benny and spearing, you're on lads. he should two foot the **** out of pelligrino. most of all he needs to rescue us from the pits of hell.

                  come the **** on.
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                    Too many under performing players I'm afraid.

                    Mascherano was a bell end in throwing himself into that challenge. I'm not sure it was a red card myself but I can see why it was given.
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                      Originally posted by lackyboy View Post
                      Keys has just said it will be FOUR matches due to already being sent off this season.

                      Is that right? Not heard of that change to the rule myself.
                      Turned over cos can't watch that smug cunt. But that is a disgrace- as reece says how the hell was that worse than brown's tackle?
                      3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                        Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                        perhaps he's found out his missus is ****ing around, perhaps the old gangsters are back, perhaps he's cold, fed up, not getting enough etc etc

                        ****ing hell he's a sulky cunt. there's always something playing on his mind.

                        He needs to tell rafa to shut the **** up and do the teamtalk himself. he needs to get the players fired up. he should say to benny and spearing, you're on lads. he should two foot the **** out of pelligrino. most of all he needs to rescue us from the pits of hell.

                        come the **** on.
                        can you leg it to the stadium now and sort them out

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                          Should gerrard be dropped?if he's as bad as some of you say.

                          I don't get the chance to watch every minute of the games we play,so i miss large chunks of action.

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                            Originally posted by Armchairkopite View Post
                            I'm surprised you took the time to respond to it then.

                            You may think its a crazy idea but how can you completely rule out the possiblity considering the amount of pressure Rafa is under to play the lad.
                            He's under no more pressure now than he was after the Arsenal game (carling Cup). If we was available he'd be on the bench, if Rafa wanted him there. Simple as.
                            Forwards.......

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                                Originally posted by paulc View Post
                                ah yes the winger argument.. waht teams have out and out wingers anymore?

                                riera is nearest to one as hugs the touchline, but the days of matthews etc are gone
                                I'm sure he means wide players... and lots of teams have better wide options than us.
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