Gerrard

[Marky]

Gerrard has suffered alot of injuries this season and as we know this season is a basic write off so he should concentrate on getting fit for next season.

But when he has played he's been utter ****e and had a stinking attitude.

How anyone can argue with that is beyond me.

[Craig_H]

No one can argue that, but the point is, having virtually carried the club for nearly a decade, he's entitled to be human and have a poor spell, without being slagged off on a daily basis.

[Marky]

Attitude and commitement, rallying the troops, encouraging the young players and the team is all we're asking for Craig. Not miracles every game.

Surely that's fair enough?

[Marky]

never forgiven the cunt for tryin to leave after istanbul. We'd have won the premiership if he'd been such a gob****e in a pub last year( Phil Collins for ****s sake), Go and **** off to madrid for £45 million and I bet Liverpool will win the premiership next yr

[Tatterdemalion]

Gerrard is a symbol of everything wrong with Liverpool at the moment. When things are going good he will be at the front of everything but when a poor team puts it up to us he usually disappears. On big european nights he usually was excellent but on too many days and nights against Wigan,Bolton,Birmingham he disappeared and could be seen walking around moaning. This just hasn't happened this season it is a big trend over the last 4-5 years. He would boss a game against a top european team then appear to be a lame lamb against some ****e team like Boro. His big attitude of let me take every free,corner really gets on my wick.

I've had a hard time forgiving him too. And I too think he goes missing some times. And this season his attitude appears quite poor. And I'm fed up with him taking all the dead balls, which he can't deliver. And I don't think he's a great captain. And he got drunk on at least one occassion. I would even agree that he is a player who is too big for our team at the moment - he is simply too influential.

On the other hand though, He played a crucial role in us winning the Champions League, won the FA Cup almost single handedly, has pulled us out of so many holes, I simply couldn't count them, has scored some unforgettable goals, has given so many local youngsters a reason to believe in themselves, and has been the only reason why this club's fans can have any respect for their team for so long, that I'm willing to forgive him for being injured. Which clearly he is.

Calling him a cunt is well out of order, mate. Have some respect even if you don't think the sun shines out of his arse.

[Kinell]

Criticism of Gerrard is very harsh in here! Rafa is still playing him as the roaming link up man despite us having no creativity or control in midfield and Torres rarely upfront. Possibly the only man in the squad to get us passing and moving and functioning right again is Gerrard and he needs to be back in the middle dictating our game play.

Gerrard is further evidence for Rafa needing to move on. Our team last season was basically built around Alonso picking out widemen etc freeing up space in the middle for Gerrard to get forward. Our shape hasn't changed but the ability to make the tactics function has. Now we rarely see width, rarely see us controlling games, and watch Gerrard run round for 90 minutes like a headless chicken trying to make it all work.

[Craig_H]

Attitude and commitement, rallying the troops, encouraging the young players and the team is all we're asking for Craig. Not miracles every game.

Surely that's fair enough?

You're asking for it on a permanent basis, with perfect, machine-like consistency and not a hint of wavering.

He's human. We all go through spells where we're not at our best. He's done more than enough to be entitled to get the benefit of the doubt when he slips below the mighty heights of perfection.

And then you're doing a 'handshake' smiley to someone who calls him a 'cunt'.

****ing pathetic.

[Marky]

You're asking for it on a permanent basis, with perfect, machine-like consistency and not a hint of wavering.

He's human. We all go through spells where we're not at our best. He's done more than enough to be entitled to get the benefit of the doubt when he slips below the mighty heights of perfection.

And then you're doing a 'handshake' smiley to someone who calls him a 'cunt'.

****ing pathetic.

Yeah too ****ing right i'm asking for the Captain of the team who is lauded and backed to the hilt by his own supporters, who is on monumumental wages to give it 100% every time he plays.

It's the minimum requirement when you cross that white line.

When he looks dis-heartened, moany and uninterested in the match questions have to be asked no matter who it is or what they've done for the club in the past.

A poor spell of form can be excused but not a poor attitude.

[Guest]

Stop being a pussy Marky, you're talking out of your arse. Gerrard is a legend here, he's not playing well and maybe not driving the team like a true captain should do at the moment, but he doesn't deserve ungraceful treatment like that.

[Craig_H]

Yeah too ****ing right i'm asking for the Captain of the team who is lauded and backed to the hilt by his own supporters, who is on monumumental wages to give it 100% every time he plays.

It's the minimum requirement when you cross that white line.

When he looks dis-heartened, moany and uninterested in the match questions have to be asked no matter who it is or what they've done for the club in the past.

A poor spell of form can be excused but not a poor attitude.

Do you really think that money comes into it?

You honestly believe, that when they cross the white line, in the heat of battle, they're thinking "Well i'm only on this amount of money, so i wont go into that 50-50 tackle. If i was on double that, then i would" ?

Dont be daft.

You're asking for perfection, from a human being who's going through all the same **** that we are. He's more of a Liverpool fan than you are, and i'm more than certain he's suffering too, so cut him some ****ing slack. Have you never had a poor attitude? I think we all know the answer to that one.

The fella's given you the best night of your life, so wind your neck in with the abusive stuff. Dont rate him, that's upto you. But keep a bit of respect.

lauded and backed to the hilt by his own supporters

Oh the sweet ****ing irony.

[Marky]

I find it hilarious that you haven't had a go at andy's post which is alot worse than any of mine about Gerrard yet you'll tear into me for simply saying Gerrard's attitude hasn't been what it should be this season.

Shaggy and a few others have said as much but just nitpick good ol Marky's posts. Nice.

[Craig_H]

If i dont respond to some posts, it's mainly because i dont think it's even worth the effort.

So responding to yours, is actually a kind of back-handed compliment. Genuinely.

[Marky]

So i'm not a lost cause afterall then?

[Craig_H]

Whatever else anyone says, i do find myself deliberately clicking on something if i see you've posted in it

[Guest]

You lack a bit of tact Marky. You have valid points but the way you say them just smacks of wummery. Try to be a bit more controlled when you advance your arguments.