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I dont really get your point mate.Originally posted by Daniel Torres View PostHe's been playing preferred position tho, innit?
You seemed to criticise Gerrard for expressing a dislike of a position, but Carragher's done the same.
When i mentioned that, you said it wasnt this season - well neither was Gerrard's either.
So as i say, i'm not really sure what you're trying to say mate.
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Subjectively - my opinion and not really based on fact - like I said earlier - was that THIS season, Carra has been played out of position several times, a lot more regularly than before. We haven't seen him express dislike for this in post match interviews on TV or press releases saying he's unhappy with his being played out if position.
Gerrard hasn't been asked to play out of position, but if he was - again subjectively and open to interpretation, judging by his general demeanour, lack of form and apparent observations of his attitude displayed thus far - I think we'd be seeing a lot more in the papers about him being disillusioned with everything. On past form. Like I said. Its speculating.
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Carragher has said he doesn't like playing FB anymore as he's too old and slow. He didn't like it before because he is a CB and his apparent versatility hindered his international career. At no point has he complained about doing a job there for Liverpool.
Gerrard always (and repeatedly) said he was a CM and was often saying how he couldn't wait to get back there despite having his most productive season for us at RM. Now he's changed his maind and wants to be a Forward and sulks like a right cunt when played in his 'best' position of CM.
The difference is comitment to the cause and not having delusions of grandeur while being a stupid ****! Shut your face and do what you're told Stevie, and look happy about it while doing it too. Stop moaning at everyone else for not passing to you all the time. Stop moaning at everyone else for not being World Class, you're barely premiership class this year."that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011
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Listen to the details. Carragher has said as part of England questioning that he doesn't think he's very good at FB. Never has he said he doesn't want to play there for LFC or moan about being there after a game. A big difference to coming off the pitch having scored a goal and saying I can't wait to get back in the middle. Which creates tension and stirs up the media i.e. is entirely self glorifying to the detriment of the team. Not to mention being plain wrong.
Gerrard is acting like a cunt and no amount of previous heroics alter that fact, it will buy him a little time and forgiveness to sort his **** out that a player like Diouff wouldn't be entitled to but it doesn't change the fact."that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011
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Is there much difference between 'i dont like playing there' and "i'd rather not play there" ?
Seems like splitting hairs, to me.
Regardless of the ins and outs, it doesnt sit easy to me to call any of our players or management 'cunts'. Not even the lazy ones who dont seem too fussed. Let alone our perma-saviour of the best part of the last decade.
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