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    Controversy

    I just cant believe all the things people say

    Am I red n white

    Should we let Rafa stay...

    controversy...

    He's linked all the time via his agent with different managers

    We havent won a thing for years

    He's spent a fortune on talent young and old

    Only a handful of his signings have been decent

    We have shown no real signs of improvement over 5 years other then GHs team that the champions league with Xabi and Luis

    We are now (it seems) happy to grind out a result against Stoke...

    Can someone please provide compelling evidence why Rafa should be allowed to stay.

    As far as I can see when we were with houllier we were above the likes of spurs and villa.

    Now we are fighting with them.

    Sorry but is this really the mamnager we want.

    A guy that spends a fortune, moans so much, and is linked with so many other clubs but delivers so little???
    Jacques Brel is alive and well and playing at Anfield

    #2
    Have you ever stopped to think you might be wrong FFS? The people at Juventus, Real and other massive clubs want him to work for them because he's a ****ing good manager FFS. They can see, as anyone with half a brain can see, that he has NOT spent "a fortune", done a good job on the whole for us and is a top class manager. It's simple.
    Last edited by Shaggy; 29-01-10, 09:04 PM.
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      #3
      Also your point about Houllier is balls. Every season under him, bar one, we were fighting like mad for 4th. It was the sole objective.

      Rafa has never, ever finished behind Spurs or Villa and under his management 4th has been a given (first season apart). The reason everyone's up in arms now is because he's raised expectations so massively, and now we find ourselves in a scrap for 4th everyone's shocked and disappointed. What are you talking about?
      Last edited by Shaggy; 29-01-10, 09:09 PM.
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        #4
        Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
        I just cant believe all the things people say

        Am I red n white

        Should we let Rafa stay...

        controversy...

        He's linked all the time via his agent with different managers

        We havent won a thing for years
        but he has brought us success and over acheiving last year

        He's spent a fortune on talent young and old
        he has been here 5 years....if he bought a 17yr old on the day he was hired, they would still only be 22, also just taken control of yoof academy.....I think Rafa's legacy will be pretty awesome actually.


        Only a handful of his signings have been decent
        decent, ****ing decent??? some have been quite simply outstanding.


        We have shown no real signs of improvement over 5 years other then GHs team that the champions league with Xabi and Luis
        so waas last year just a success blip?

        We are now (it seems) happy to grind out a result against Stoke...
        desperate times take desperate measures

        Can someone please provide compelling evidence why Rafa should be allowed to stay.
        i can give you 20million reasons

        As far as I can see when we were with houllier we were above the likes of spurs and villa.
        Now we are fighting with them.
        Sorry but is this really the mamnager we want.
        if you dont think this team is light years from what we had you dont know football mate, you do realise spurs and villa have upped the ante as ewll

        A guy that spends a fortune, moans so much, and is linked with so many other clubs but delivers so little???
        its weirs how many people rate benitez up and down the land, maybe just maybe he is a good manager after all......Success of the field breeds success on it.....

        Blackburn, leeds( well they thought it was good), city, liverpool(once) chelsea, arsenal, scum..........all got it right in the boardroom and that projects onto the pitch.
        Until upstairs is sorted out i dont think anyone in the world could come in and get us premiership champs...,
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        Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

        Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
          Also your point about Houllier is balls. Every season under him, bar one, we were fighting like mad for 4th. It was the sole objective.

          Rafa has never, ever finished behind Spurs or Villa and under his management 4th has been a given (first season apart). The reason everyone's up in arms now is because he's raised expectations so massively, and now we find ourselves in a scrap for 4th everyone's shocked and disappointed. What are you talking about?
          and dont forget he has finished above arsenal for a couple of seasons too.....and wenger has won **** all for a few years either!!!
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          Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

          Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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            #6
            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            Have you ever stopped to think you might be wrong FFS? The people at Juventus, Real and other massive clubs want him to work for them because he's a ****ing good manager FFS. They can see, as anyone with half a brain can see, that he has NOT spent "a fortune", done a good job on the whole for us and is a top class manager. It's simple.
            100 %

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              #7
              Massive divide between fans at the minute, its amazing.

              I'm actually after falling out with my uncle and my cousin(not father and son) over Liverpool. I have never seen such a difference in opinion, its astonishing.

              The thing is that the owners seem to have got a free ride on the back of Lucas and Rafa both of which seem to be the main bones of contention.

              Funny thing is the trend points towards a group who support Rafa, Lucas and cant stand Babel to a group those that are the total opposite ie Rafas time is up, Lucas is rubbish and Babel is quality.

              Mad stuff

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                #8
                Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
                I just cant believe all the things people say

                Am I red n white

                Should we let Rafa stay...

                controversy...

                He's linked all the time via his agent with different managers

                We havent won a thing for years

                He's spent a fortune on talent young and old

                Only a handful of his signings have been decent

                We have shown no real signs of improvement over 5 years other then GHs team that the champions league with Xabi and Luis

                We are now (it seems) happy to grind out a result against Stoke...

                Can someone please provide compelling evidence why Rafa should be allowed to stay.

                As far as I can see when we were with houllier we were above the likes of spurs and villa.

                Now we are fighting with them.

                Sorry but is this really the mamnager we want.

                A guy that spends a fortune, moans so much, and is linked with so many other clubs but delivers so little???

                Change the record mate, you came out with the same anti Benitez stuff on K*ptalk.
                In Klopp we trust.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
                  I just cant believe all the things people say

                  Am I red n white

                  Should we let Rafa stay...

                  controversy...

                  He's linked all the time via his agent with different managers

                  We havent won a thing for years

                  He's spent a fortune on talent young and old

                  Only a handful of his signings have been decent

                  We have shown no real signs of improvement over 5 years other then GHs team that the champions league with Xabi and Luis

                  We are now (it seems) happy to grind out a result against Stoke...

                  Can someone please provide compelling evidence why Rafa should be allowed to stay.

                  As far as I can see when we were with houllier we were above the likes of spurs and villa.

                  Now we are fighting with them.

                  Sorry but is this really the mamnager we want.

                  A guy that spends a fortune, moans so much, and is linked with so many other clubs but delivers so little???
                  **** me, I bet you're a barrel of laughs to be stuck next to in the stands. I look forward to your call tonight on 6-0-6 if we don't win 4-0 against Bolton

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                    #10
                    Thread title fail!!!


                    Should be renamed, Pathetic Whinge

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                      #11
                      It's an absolutely ****e thread. The lad has dropped his usual hackneyed drivel and run away. May as well delete it or lock it or something, it's a waste of bandwidth.
                      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
                        Can someone please provide compelling evidence why Rafa should be allowed to stay.
                        I think you only have to look at last season, with regards to just how fine the line is.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                          It's an absolutely ****e thread. The lad has dropped his usual hackneyed drivel and run away. May as well delete it or lock it or something, it's a waste of bandwidth.
                          for a waste of bandwidth it certainly got you posting enough times you clown.

                          Its a point of view.

                          I dont beleive Rafa Benitiez is going to deliver anything other than what he provided in the first two years of his reign when the majority of the team was inherited.

                          If you really beleive that since that last Cup win he really deserves to keep his job then fine thats your problem.

                          The guy has bought so much rot its incredible

                          I am sick of his palying games with the media, most of which backfire spectacularly.

                          I am sick of hearing exscuses for this or for that. THe guy has left every club on bad terms when things have gone wrong.

                          Liverpool will be no different
                          Jacques Brel is alive and well and playing at Anfield

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                            #14
                            You haven't responded to my first two replies. Why's that I wonder? Moron.
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
                              for a waste of bandwidth it certainly got you posting enough times you clown.

                              Its a point of view.

                              I dont beleive Rafa Benitiez is going to deliver anything other than what he provided in the first two years of his reign when the majority of the team was inherited.

                              If you really beleive that since that last Cup win he really deserves to keep his job then fine thats your problem.

                              The guy has bought so much rot its incredible

                              I am sick of his palying games with the media, most of which backfire spectacularly.

                              I am sick of hearing exscuses for this or for that. THe guy has left every club on bad terms when things have gone wrong.

                              Liverpool will be no different
                              It's rare for many managers to leave clubs on good terms. LFC have been lucky in that respect. Spoiled, even. It's not the norm.
                              Oh I don't know.

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