LFC's 5 year plan

[bodmin]

Firstly, Man City for all their cash, are a nobody in european footballing terms. Most top players will laugh off offers from City. This is an advantage we hold over them currently, but if we allow ourselves to slip down the table, we wont hold onto this advantage for very long, so it is something we need to utilise now. City arent getting the very best players in europe, so for me, that makes them someone we CAN be competing with and should really still be finishing above. I dont think the quality of their squad is in proportion with the money they have, and i dont think they have a better team than us.

Yes, but if if we haven't got the money to buy those players in the first place then we can't be in competition to buy them.

[Fivex]

Yeah I've had a look dww, but how? Unless the difference is made up of them having to offer their unknown superkids something like £10k a week as the deal breaker?

We've got 2 players on at least £120k a week, about 5 or 6 players on £80k, and about 10 players on around £50k.

[The_weatherman]

Back then they had players such as Henry, Bergkamp, Cole, Ljungberg, Pires, Reyes, Campbell.

Can't see them having a similar wage bill now they have the new stadium to pay for, especially with the group of young whipper snappers they now have?

I'd expect Gallas, Bendtner, Van Persie, Eduardo, Vermaelen, Arshavin, Rosicky and Fabregas to be on a fair wedge. They probably don't have as many high earners but more players in the middle bracket. Arshavin, RVP and Fabregas are all on very good wages, I'm pretty sure about that.

[Fivex]

Maybe I'm just blind to the outside world

[Exiled_red]

Yeah I've had a look dww, but how? Unless the difference is made up of them having to offer their unknown superkids something like £10k a week as the deal breaker?

We've got 2 players on at least £120k a week, about 5 or 6 players on £80k, and about 10 players on around £50k.

What are you basing this on?
As someone mentioned before, it seems that footballers wages are varied by the press to suit the story they are writing. So if it's based on press stories I would take the figures with a pinch of salt, if you're basing it on something more solid I would be interested to see a link if you have one?

[Fivex]

I'm basing it on nothing but Football Manager.

Seriously though I realise nobody outside the club can ever really know what's being paid (apart from players with the initials JAR that is) but i'd say it's reasonable to assume the squad falls into something like the below, give or take a few grand here and there

£120k bracket - Gerrard, Torres
£80k bracket - Reina, Carra, Glen, Maxi, Kuyt, Masch, Aquilani
£50k bracket - Agger, Skrtel, Riera, Benny, Babel, Aurelio, Lucas

[dww]

Yeah I've had a look dww, but how? Unless the difference is made up of them having to offer their unknown superkids something like £10k a week as the deal breaker?

We've got 2 players on at least £120k a week, about 5 or 6 players on £80k, and about 10 players on around £50k.

No idea. Maybe we have negotiated better deals than is generally assumed wage wise?

Their is certainly and accounting figure so it is correct. Ours is an estimate so could go up and is higher according to this (still less than them though).

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/269567-george-gillett-a-closer-look-into-his-claims-over-liverpools-spending

The rise in Torres wages was very recent and probably won't be included so we may be getting closer.

[cream]

That is pretty much spot on from GB, we're not going to win anything in the near future, its not part of the G+H plan. They are more concerned with increasing the value of the club, just look to Arsenal to see what our next few years will be like.

[Scratch]

Don't the Arse make a big deal out of claiming they have a "wage cap" but then bump up players saleries with numerous bonuses and add-ons...all this will add a fair whack to there bill, given there relative success, even without cup wins.

[Craig_H]

Yes, but if if we haven't got the money to buy those players in the first place then we can't be in competition to buy them.

And why havent we got it? Because our budget goes on interest/debt repayments. Back to my point of, if they cant afford to own and run the club in a competitive manner, why did they buy it?

[Craig_H]

That is pretty much spot on from GB, we're not going to win anything in the near future, its not part of the G+H plan. They are more concerned with increasing the value of the club, just look to Arsenal to see what our next few years will be like.

Arsenal havent failed to get into the CL.

If G&H decide not to strengthen the squad, we will do.

How does not being in the CL increase the value of the club?

Sponsorship revenues will suffer, as will merchandising and even gate money/ST revenues will descrease.

[BobTheCharmer]

and even gate money/ST revenues will descrease.

Season ticket revenue will fall because of no CL footie for a year? if anyone refuses to renew their ticket there's a 20 odd year waiting list isn't there?

Plus I thought there was a long list of fixtures in the new europa league format? Surely we'd be able to sell out every fixture in our aging old 45,000 seat capacity ground? Or do we need a 65,000 seater so that the ever increasing amounts of fat *******s can have a couple of seats each?

I think we can survive a year of no CL football. In fact I think any club that has based their whole existance or survival on being in it deserves to come a cropper. Be that us, utd or arsenal. Competition is good for a healthy sport.

[Craig_H]

Season ticket revenue will fall because of no CL footie for a year? if anyone refuses to renew their ticket there's a 20 odd year waiting list isn't there?

Plus I thought there was a long list of fixtures in the new europa league format? Surely we'd be able to sell out every fixture in our aging old 45,000 seat capacity ground? Or do we need a 65,000 seater so that the ever increasing amounts of fat *******s can have a couple of seats each?

I think we can survive a year of no CL football. In fact I think any club that has based their whole existance or survival on being in it deserves to come a cropper. Be that us, utd or arsenal. Competition is good for a healthy sport.

No i didnt mean people wouldnt renew, but they're not going to tick the auto-cup scheme for the europa league.

We'll see how full the ground is for Unirea - i'm not convinced it'll sell out.

[cream]

It doesn't matter what competitions we play in or what we win, the value of the club will be determined by revenue and income. We haven't won anything under G+H and we wont do in the future, it doesn't matter to them, we are simply following the Arsenal path.

[Woobus]

I think we can survive a year of no CL football. In fact I think any club that has based their whole existance or survival on being in it deserves to come a cropper. Be that us, utd or arsenal. Competition is good for a healthy sport.

Lol we can survive a year of no Champs league, but then we have had 0 transfer cash already. Will clearly have to sell if we dont get in, and think you if anyone would agree that our squad is bad enough as it is.