Well that, and I'm not sure what exactly he has achieved in his career so far that we would consider him. Obviously we can all speculate on someone's potential, but at the moment we need someone to come in that has more going for them than potential in my opinion.
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Attacking football, great man management skills, discipline, an eye for a quality player, an astuteness in the transfer market and experience of different kinds of football (Wales).Originally posted by Matt View PostWhat does he offer?
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Originally posted by ValueFinder View PostAttacking football, great man management skills, discipline, an eye for a quality player, an astuteness in the transfer market and experience of different kinds of football (Wales).



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He's not on my list of managers I really don't want but I'm not sure he is an outstanding candidate.Originally posted by ValueFinder View PostAnyone fancy Mark Hughes or are you too childish to look past his UTD ties?
He's shown he can handle working with a restricted budget and manage reasonably high profile players with some success. He has however never won anything or come close to challenging for things in a league scenario.
He is thoughtful and analytical which is positive and rare in a coach sourced from the UK. He has shown he can create a variety of styles of play too.
Still something (beyond his Old Trafford past) that I don't particularly like about him though."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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Originally posted by dww View PostHe's not on my list of managers I really don't want but I'm not sure he is an outstanding candidate.
He's shown he can handle working with a restricted budget and manage reasonably high profile players with some success. He has however never won anything or come close to challenging for things in a league scenario.
He is thoughtful and analytical which is positive and rare in a coach sourced from the UK. He has shown he can create a variety of styles of play too.
Still something (beyond his Old Trafford past) that I don't particularly like about him though.
Fair post.
The most successful managers though tend to be the ones that aren't bothered about being liked.
Harry Redknapp would be my first choice but Hughes would be a close second. I don't include Hiddink as I don't think there's any chance of getting him.
I think he was very unfairly treated at City and I think he'd have got them 4th if he stayed.
I take your point about not having won anything as he hasn't managed any real high profile teams but after the dross of the last 10 years, I think it's worth giving him his first opportunity.
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What is the different kind of football they play in Wales?Originally posted by ValueFinder View PostAttacking football, great man management skills, discipline, an eye for a quality player, an astuteness in the transfer market and experience of different kinds of football (Wales)."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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It's nice on paper but I'm not sure it actually translates to what we've seen of him.Originally posted by ValueFinder View PostAttacking football, great man management skills, discipline, an eye for a quality player, an astuteness in the transfer market and experience of different kinds of football (Wales).
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International football I mean.Originally posted by dww View PostWhat is the different kind of football they play in Wales?
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I can't think of a manager I would be happy with. Even if I didn't think Benitez was the best man for the job, all the others at his level would not touch LFC right now with a bargepole. From the list of contenders, Hiddink is the only one who is anywhere close to Rafa's level and he's ruled himself out.Originally posted by dww View PostAt this stage the bast I'm hoping for is a manager I don't dislike already - i.e. not Redknapp (thankfully Mourinho is out of the picture). I'd rather not O'Neill either.
So whoever we get will be a step down or three. Look who's left:
- A vain, ageing Swedish lothario with the tactical nous of a squashed pea.
- An ex-stalwart of both Manchester United and Chelsea who has zero experience of managing a title-chasing and CL-contending club and who failed at his previous job despite spending £700billion (people can call that childish of me if they like but then I really don't give a f*ck).
- An old chap who seems a nice bloke and who had an excellent season by getting to mid-table and losing the UEFA Cup but failed to get his side to win matches away from home.
- A legendary former player and manager who hasn't managed a club for a decade.
- A buffoon with an abysmal record in European competition and who gets his team to play mind-numbingly boring football and who seems to have confused tactical astuteness with being a jack-in-the-box on the touchline.
Like I said, it's a f*cking nightmare.Last edited by Neil Young; 07-06-10, 12:05 PM..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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Well thats cheered me upOriginally posted by Neil Young View PostI can't think of a manager I would be happy with. Even if I didn't think Benitez was the best man for the job, all the others at his level would not touch LFC right now with a bargepole. From the list of contenders, Hiddink is the only one who is anywhere close to Rafa's level and he's ruled himself out.
So whoever we get will be a step down or three. Look who's left:
- A vain, ageing Swedish lothario with the tactical nous of a squashed pea.
- An ex-stalwart of both Manchester United and Chelsea who has zero experience of managing a title-chasing and CL-contending club and who failed at his previous job despite spending £700billion (people can call that childish of me if they like but then I really don't give a f*ck).
- An old chap who seems a nice bloke and who had an excellent season by getting to mid-table and losing the UEFA Cup but failed to get his side to win matches away from home.
- A legendary former player and manager who hasn't managed a club for a decade.
- A buffoon with an abysmal record in European competition and who gets his team to play mind-numbingly boring football.
Like I said, it's a f*cking nightmare.
There might be a few more options in a month when the international federations sack a few World Cup managers.
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Don't forget Everton as well.Originally posted by Neil Young View Post[*]An ex-stalwart of both Manchester United and Chelsea who has zero experience of managing a title-chasing and CL-contending club and who failed at his previous job despite spending £700billion (people can call that childish of me if they like but then I really don't give a f*ck).
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I had. They don't really bother me though because they're sh*t.Originally posted by Reece View PostDon't forget Everton as well.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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how would shankly have fitted nto your "categorisations" as a manager from a lower league?Originally posted by Neil Young View PostI can't think of a manager I would be happy with. Even if I didn't think Benitez was the best man for the job, all the others at his level would not touch LFC right now with a bargepole. From the list of contenders, Hiddink is the only one who is anywhere close to Rafa's level and he's ruled himself out.
So whoever we get will be a step down or three. Look who's left:
- A vain, ageing Swedish lothario with the tactical nous of a squashed pea.
- An ex-stalwart of both Manchester United and Chelsea who has zero experience of managing a title-chasing and CL-contending club and who failed at his previous job despite spending £700billion (people can call that childish of me if they like but then I really don't give a f*ck).
- An old chap who seems a nice bloke and who had an excellent season by getting to mid-table and losing the UEFA Cup but failed to get his side to win matches away from home.
- A legendary former player and manager who hasn't managed a club for a decade.
- A buffoon with an abysmal record in European competition and who gets his team to play mind-numbingly boring football and who seems to have confused tactical astuteness with being a jack-in-the-box on the touchline.
Like I said, it's a f*cking nightmare.
I am curious to know, as I am about Dalglish and even Paisley
It seems to me you want a winner that has already won ten league titles and 18 CL'sJacques Brel is alive and well and playing at Anfield
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there is Lippi he would be good.
my choices if available would be
Cappello
Lippi/ Hiddink
Van Gaal
Maybe maureen. not sure about that he is a winner but as a person he goes to far with his antics. if he didnt he would be a bit shanks like. read some of the things shanks said back in the day. however he isnt as he is a self centred ****. but hey ho
woy.
maybe harry but dont really want him.
not O'neill
hughes is unteseted at what we want.
so all the ones i want wont be coming.
who knows eh
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