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I can't argue with what he has achieved and he is clearly one of the worlds best managers. I'm not however sure that he would succeed with us in the circumstances we have, in fact I personally think he would do less well than Rafa."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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Mourinho: "It was difficult for me to come here as an enemy where my 'home' is, here at Chelsea."
I wonder who here would like our manager to come out with a sentence like that.
But some here seem to currently give up any pride, just to give José a leg-over.
Personally I'd rather die with my pride intact as a peasant, than live as a lord having sold it for a cheap success story.
As for those likening Mourinho to Shanks ... in your defense I can only assume you are to young to remember what LFC was in the sevienties and eighties.
And once again: He will NOT come to Liverpool unless he gets a massive kitty to buy players !Last edited by red n white; 17-03-10, 11:22 AM.
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I can actually. The last season he was there they were pretty poor and with a much stronger squad than we have now. I think without a large top level squad he would struggle to create the aura of invincibility and the faith in players that is key to the way he works. Obviously we will only ever know if my theory is right if he takes on a team who are not obviously the financial powerhouse and have the best squad in their league. I have my doubts that he ever will and given how in demand he is always likely to be I don't know why he would.Originally posted by Craig_H View PostCan you really imagine a Mourinho side wilting the way we did away to Pompey?
Just to mention one..."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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He also spoke about being professional and doing the best thing for his club - but of course, it's easier to make your point if you ignore thisOriginally posted by red n white View PostMourinho: "It was difficult for me to come here as an enemy where my 'home' is, here at Chelsea."
I wonder who here would like our manager to come out with a sentence like that.
But some here seem to currently give up any pride, just to give José a leg-over.
Personally I'd rather die with my pride intact as a peasant, than live as a lord having sold it for a cheap success story.
As for those likening Mourinho to Shanks ... in your defense I can only assume you are to young to remember what LFC was in the sevienties and eighties.
And once again: He will NOT come to Liverpool unless he gets a massive kitty to buy players !
As for pride - plodding along trying to finish above 7th doesnt exactly bring us much pride, does it?
No offence, but you have no idea whether he'd come to us or not, so presenting your opinion as fact, isnt really an accurate thing to do.
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You are right in so far, as you should see a quote in context. However, under no circumstances could I accept our manager to have his 'home' in London.Originally posted by Craig_H View PostHe also spoke about being professional and doing the best thing for his club - but of course, it's easier to make your point if you ignore this
As for pride - plodding along trying to finish above 7th doesnt exactly bring us much pride, does it?
No offence, but you have no idea whether he'd come to us or not, so presenting your opinion as fact, isnt really an accurate thing to do.
Nobody can be happy with our current situation and maybe a new manager is the solution. However, I think most people seem to believe that only José can fix it ... and I just don't believe that. There must be other managers around equally or even more suited for the job.
Finally. Yes, obviously I do not have the certain knowledge that he may never come under the current circumstance, but wanted to express my absolute conviction. Sometimes this may sound as a fact (as it does in a normal conversation over a pint) but has to be seen in the context of this being a football forum, where such facts would end up last.
No offence taken, mate, as we are here to discuss, as long as the respect for each other's oppinions remains intact.
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Mourihno has never had a challenge as difficult as Rafa's. He had it all his way at Chelsea, with an owner who was prepared to bankroll him. It's not as if he's achieving anything at Inter as again, he had the best squad of players when he arrived there. There's absolutely nothing to definitely say that Mourihno is a better manager than Rafa. Yes he's won trophies but making parallels just based on trophies without taking into consideration other factors is plain daft IMO. And it's not a feat beating Chelsea this season, they're distinctly average.
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we didn't do itOriginally posted by PeteBest View PostMourihno has never had a challenge as difficult as Rafa's. He had it all his way at Chelsea, with an owner who was prepared to bankroll him. It's not as if he's achieving anything at Inter as again, he had the best squad of players when he arrived there. There's absolutely nothing to definitely say that Mourihno is a better manager than Rafa. Yes he's won trophies but making parallels just based on trophies without taking into consideration other factors is plain daft IMO. And it's not a feat beating Chelsea this season, they're distinctly average.Felching ≠ Gerbilling
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Originally posted by PeteBest View PostMourihno has never had a challenge as difficult as Rafa's. He had it all his way at Chelsea, with an owner who was prepared to bankroll him. It's not as if he's achieving anything at Inter as again, he had the best squad of players when he arrived there. There's absolutely nothing to definitely say that Mourihno is a better manager than Rafa. Yes he's won trophies but making parallels just based on trophies without taking into consideration other factors is plain daft IMO. And it's not a feat beating Chelsea this season, they're distinctly average.
They will be top of the league if they win their game in hand. Ok, so their not running away with it, but **** me, if they're average, we are fooking ****e.
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****ing hell what does that make us then?Originally posted by PeteBest View PostMourihno has never had a challenge as difficult as Rafa's. He had it all his way at Chelsea, with an owner who was prepared to bankroll him. It's not as if he's achieving anything at Inter as again, he had the best squad of players when he arrived there. There's absolutely nothing to definitely say that Mourihno is a better manager than Rafa. Yes he's won trophies but making parallels just based on trophies without taking into consideration other factors is plain daft IMO. And it's not a feat beating Chelsea this season, they're distinctly average.
and as regarding not acheiving anything at inter.....he did win the title and has got them into the quarters for the first time in 6 years._____________________________________
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I don't understand what you mean by taking this in isolation and out of context. I am not disputing the fact that we've been worst than Chelsea this season but simply to show that Inter beating Chelsea is not a feat. The English PL was on the whole devoid of any quality this season, apart from being very competitive. And Mourihno still spent a fair bit of money this season too.Originally posted by badpiggy View Postwe didn't do it
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To be honest over the season both of those statements seem about fair. The PL this year has been abysmal quality wise from what I have seen.Originally posted by Operation View Post
They will be top of the league if they win their game in hand. Ok, so their not running away with it, but **** me, if they're average, we are fooking ****e."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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Originally posted by Operation View Post
They will be top of the league if they win their game in hand. Ok, so their not running away with it, but **** me, if they're average, we are fooking ****e.Who is saying that we were ****ing great you pair of morons?Originally posted by red g View Post****ing hell what does that make us then?
and as regarding not acheiving anything at inter.....he did win the title and has got them into the quarters for the first time in 6 years.
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Originally posted by PeteBest View PostI don't understand what you mean by taking this in isolation and out of context. I am not disputing the fact that we've been worst than Chelsea this season but simply to show that Inter beating Chelsea is not a feat. The English PL was on the whole devoid of any quality this season, apart from being very competitive. And Mourihno still spent a fair bit of money this season too.
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I think you can do this arguing thing without the insults. I would be much obliged if you did.Originally posted by PeteBest View PostWho is saying that we were ****ing great you pair of morons?
"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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