The New Manager Thread

[Kenneth]

so we also have........

John Toshack
John Barnes
Steve Staunton
Paul Jewell
Mark Wright
Phil Neal

slim pickings.........

Carra?

[Lecter]

Carra?

Keegan

[Craig_H]

Who do you feel could do better

Bearing in mind the following:-

They will have to break even in the transfer market at the very least and with Rafas pay off will likely have to show a profit

They will in all likelihood have to accept a lower salary than Benitez (so that rules out a lot of the genuine candidates imo)

The bigger picture imo isnt whether Benitez is doing well enough at this moment, its finding someone who can work under the same conditions (or with less funds) for less wages and do a better job

That to me is going to be difficult

It depends on your view of certain manager's ability to consistently get the best out of his players.

It also depends on whether you think certain managers would relish the challenge of taking us back to glory, enough to take a wage cut and 'struggle' to get by on £4m per annum.

You may not think most of them would do, fair enough. I think plenty would.

But if you still insist that the bigger names wouldnt accept that, ok then. I'll give you someone who wouldnt need to take a pay cut and has managed to get by without spending big money in the market, yet still achieve results which exceed the perceived quality of the team he has, because he gets the best out of his squad. Roy Hodgson.

For what it's worth, i think Mourinho would take it, but if you insist not, then there are still other candidates.

Furthermore, i disagree with the idea of continuing with something that is factually not working, just because there are no guarantees that any given alternative would succeed.

[Kenneth]

Keegan

Gary Ablett

[cream]

Has to be Souness.

[5europeancups]

would anyone give Steve Nicol ago? (I wouldnt without more proof from within the UK game)

Im surpprised he hasnt tried to venture his luck over here yet? But I guess he is happy over there with the NEP.

It would be interesting to see how he does in the UK though.

[Lecter]

It depends on your view of certain manager's ability to consistently get the best out of his players.

It also depends on whether you think certain managers would relish the challenge of taking us back to glory, enough to take a wage cut and 'struggle' to get by on £4m per annum.

You may not think most of them would do, fair enough. I think plenty would.

But if you still insist that the bigger names wouldnt accept that, ok then. I'll give you someone who wouldnt need to take a pay cut and has managed to get by without spending big money in the market, yet still achieve results which exceed the perceived quality of the team he has, because he gets the best out of his squad. Roy Hodgson.

For what it's worth, i think Mourinho would take it, but if you insist not, then there are still other candidates.

Furthermore, i disagree with the idea of continuing with something that is factually not working, just because there are no guarantees that any given alternative would succeed.

You think Mourinho would take a 50% pay cut to come to a team with no money, when there is a chance to earn double his current salary with a astronomic transfer budget 40 miles down the East Lancs

Mourinhos ego wouldnt allow him

I like Hodgson and if push comes to shove (on the budget & ambition I expect from our owners) I think he could be in the running

That said he invested £10 million NETT in his side last season and £6 million this season

Which as you are well aware is more than Rafa has in the last two seasons

I think any manager who comes in is going to face an extremely difficult job and a budget comparable with a League 1 side rather than a Premier League side, it might be possible that he could improve the performance but I am genuinely not as optimistic as you

I feel there is far more going on behind the scenes than we are aware of

[Reece]

I can see Mourinho going to Real Madrid in the summer.

[Craig_H]

You think Mourinho would take a 50% pay cut to come to a team with no money, when there is a chance to earn double his current salary with a astronomic transfer budget 40 miles down the East Lancs

Mourinhos ego wouldnt allow him

I like Hodgson and if push comes to shove (on the budget & ambition I expect from our owners) I think he could be in the running

That said he invested £10 million NETT in his side last season and £6 million this season

Which as you are well aware is more than Rafa has in the last two seasons

I think any manager who comes in is going to face an extremely difficult job and a budget comparable with a League 1 side rather than a Premier League side, it might be possible that he could improve the performance but I am genuinely not as optimistic as you

I feel there is far more going on behind the scenes than we are aware of

Given the relative values and qualities of the squads, i doubt Hodgson would say no on the basis that he wouldnt have £16m net to spend over 2 seasons. Our squad is infinitely better than he'd ever have at fulham, regardless of budgets.

As for Jose, his ego is precisely why he WOULD take the job. He'd love to go and do what rafa failed to do, and get one over on him. Furthermore, he has such a massive ego and self belief, that i cant imagine him ever thinking he'd fail at anything. Even with the lower budgets, he'd think he could challenge for the title with our squad. After all, rafa did once, and Mourinho no doubt thinks he's a better manager than anyone, so why wouldnt he think he could do it?

I dont think the salary matters, he's comfortably minted and £4m p/a is hardly a struggle. He'd do it because he knows that anyone who us the title, would become immortal and become a god in footballing history - and i'm sure he'd be convinced of his ability to succeed. That's precisely his character - he thinks nothing is beyond his capabilities. That's also precisely the mindset he puts into his players, something we need more than a desert needs rain.

On a slightly side note, whilst i obviously realise we're not going to be given massive funds to spend on players, i dont think we'll continue working with a completely zero net budget.

[red g]

would anyone give Steve Nicol ago? (I wouldnt without more proof from within the UK game)

Im surpprised he hasnt tried to venture his luck over here yet? But I guess he is happy over there with the NEP.

It would be interesting to see how he does in the UK though.

I dont do gingers.

[red g]

I can see Mourinho going to Real Madrid in the summer.

not sure if there board would be to keen to be honest. hardly good for the real madrid pr machine

[el matador]

I can see Mourinho going to Real Madrid in the summer.

theyve already said that they dont want him because he doesnt play their style of football.

After last nights debacle im certain that pelligrini wont be the manager next season and their only real alternative is Rafa Benitez.

They will come in for him again and with all of the uncertainty surrounding us i think he will go.

With the £20m compensation we get from real, we should look to bring mourinho to the club. He will breed the underdog atmosphere within the club and get the players playing to their maximum.

Motivating players certainly isnt one of his failings and even with a restricted budget im 100% certain that he will do a decent job for us.

My greatest concern is the academy structure that rafa has put into place may actually end up giving us some really good talent and if he goes then the likes of rodolpho burrell and jose segura will probably leave too.

But Purslow needs to get his finger out and get this investment sorted quick.

[Roboklopp]

You think Mourinho would take a 50% pay cut to come to a team with no money, when there is a chance to earn double his current salary with a astronomic transfer budget 40 miles down the East Lancs

Mourinhos ego wouldnt allow him

I like Hodgson and if push comes to shove (on the budget & ambition I expect from our owners) I think he could be in the running

That said he invested £10 million NETT in his side last season and £6 million this season

Which as you are well aware is more than Rafa has in the last two seasons

I think any manager who comes in is going to face an extremely difficult job and a budget comparable with a League 1 side rather than a Premier League side, it might be possible that he could improve the performance but I am genuinely not as optimistic as you

I feel there is far more going on behind the scenes than we are aware of

I like you Lecher, you make a lot of sense.

[Helios Creed]

I'll be amazed if we still have both Rafa and Stevie next season.

[el matador]

You think Mourinho would take a 50% pay cut to come to a team with no money, when there is a chance to earn double his current salary with a astronomic transfer budget 40 miles down the East Lancs

Mourinhos ego wouldnt allow him

I like Hodgson and if push comes to shove (on the budget & ambition I expect from our owners) I think he could be in the running

That said he invested £10 million NETT in his side last season and £6 million this season

Which as you are well aware is more than Rafa has in the last two seasons

I think any manager who comes in is going to face an extremely difficult job and a budget comparable with a League 1 side rather than a Premier League side, it might be possible that he could improve the performance but I am genuinely not as optimistic as you

I feel there is far more going on behind the scenes than we are aware of

I disgree with you Lec and this is why.

Mourinho has probably the biggest ego in football today. He has 100% confidence in his own abilities and if someone said to him that whatever you did at chelsea or inter milan will look insignificant in comparison to winning the league with Liverpool, and that as a manager he will go into folklore and our eternal history, then I believe that its a challenge that he would have to accept.

to succeed where souness, evans, houllier and above all Rafa benitez failed would make him a legend within our club and further cement his reputation as one of the best managers in the world today.

Whereas any success at man city will always be tempered with the fact that he bought all his success and he's already done that with chelsea.

The opportunity to earn this sort of kudos or world fame only comes around once in a while and i dont think his ego will let him pass this up.