The New Manager Thread

[Mattshark]

I don't want that dispicable cnut anywhere near our club, people have very short memories! Roy Hodgson, really!

[Mattshark]

It's not ideal, obv.

But we don't have too many choices.

I think Roy Hodgson would do a good job of getting the best out of the players we've got, steading the ship for a couple of years and getting us back into the top four.

I'd much rather have Rafa thanks.

[red g]

BS, there were people calling for Rafa to go cos he didn't win the league last year!
And you are comparing far longer mangerial periods because Rafa and Wenger over the same time period, has Rafa as more successful and completely different financial situations.

yes and people have also been wanting wenger and fergie out on there respective boards for the last couple of seasons to.......

that was all my point, I think we have backed our manager easily as much as those 2 clubs.

COurse people are getting disenchanted now, who could blame them?

[Mattshark]

yes and people have also been wanting wenger and fergie out on there respective boards for the last couple of seasons to.......

that was all my point, I think we have backed our manager easily as much as those 2 clubs.

COurse people are getting disenchanted now, who could blame them?

I think most fans have yes, there are some who haven't but that is no surprise. However, I don't think there is justification for some of the posts on here about Rafa in the slightest or for some posters using every thread to criticise.

[red g]

I think most fans have yes, there are some who haven't but that is no surprise. However, I don't think there is justification for some of the posts on here about Rafa in the slightest or for some posters using every thread to criticise.

what about some posters using every thread to heap praise on him?

equally as boring in my opinion.

Even the most blinkered of fans can see this season has been the most depressing season in a long time and the manager has underperformed.

Some may believe Rafa deserves another shot, some dont.

[Mattshark]

what about some posters using every thread to heap praise on him?

equally as boring in my opinion.

Even the most blinkered of fans can see this season has been the most depressing season in a long time and the manager has underperformed.

Some may believe Rafa deserves another shot, some dont.

Boring yes, but I don't think it is on the same level as hypercriticism and usually it is in response to that.

[red g]

Boring yes, but I don't think it is on the same level as hypercriticism and usually it is in response to that.

hmmm thats only coz your on the Rafa staying side

[merlboo]

newcastle analogy an open letter

*disclaimer* this has been pinched off another forum

for those easily offended look away now ,it could be a little close to the bone !

Dear no alls,

I've already heard loads of bad teds (even matchgoing, loyal red, bad teds) saying that they don't rate the UEFA cup, that its mickey mouse etc etc. Yet if you'd said to the same people at the end of 2004 (pre Rafa) that they could go to a european final (having only been to one other in the previous 19 years) they'd be creaming themselves.

He's in his fourth European semi in 6 years.

Potentially his third European final in 6 years.

yet he's constantly now being given ****e by 50% of you; our loyal "fans".

Last year I had a discussion with a mate of mine in work who is a Newcastle fan. When they were going through the shearer debacle I reminded him that their fans had hounded out Dalglish, Gullit and Robson and that all of these managers would have kept Newcastle up. My point was that newcastle fans were to blame for their demise because their fans had delusions of grandeur.

Well, welcome to Newcastle you clueless biffs. Lets go through the reality:-

1. Financially, we cannot compete to win the league.
2. We are lucky to have done as well in the league as we did last year
3. Whilst we "exist to win trophies", remaining in Europe by late April/early May is a better barrometer of success than winning the league as that is realistically not going to happen whilst we fail to invest in the team.
4. Our manager has taken us from being so bad in Europe we were three down in Basle, Switzerland in a must win final group match to "Europe's top table", time after time after time.
5. If he goes/is hounded out, we won't be in three European semi finals or finals in the next 6 years.

I'm ****ing sick of you bellends rehearsing your bull****, fed by the know nothing media. I ****ing despise you all and I reserve the right to tell you that you are wrong vociferously at every available opportunity but quite frankly I'm ****ing fed up of having to do so.

Open your eyes and appreciate what you have. In the real world, sometimes, football teams have bad period and bad runs. **** it, some have bad seasons. But, you ****ing imbeciles, the same man you are now lambasting for getting us to a semi final of a european competition (for christ's sake!) is not the ****ing problem. In fact, your constant chelping, criticism and inability to support the club through a time of crisis is much more of a problem endemic in our club.

Most knowledgable fans in the werld.........what a ****ing joke.

Forza Rafa, Forza LFC.

**** off Dickheads.

Scully, kopite.

[red g]

While I commend lots of those sentiments we may exist to win trophies , I don't believe rafa's mentality will always stop us winning the premiership.

[Mike]

I've said it before on this thread and i will say it again, get Mourinho!

You can hate him but he wins trophies and matches.

You can question his financial backing but it wasnt so great at Porto iirc, and look where he got them.

He is also THE best at getting the players playing until the final whistle, which is often what we need - so many times Chelsea scored late winners. We did it last season, thats it.

If we cant get Mourinho and it is a high possibility, i would go for Hodgson, i cant remember that well but i believe hodgson did well at Inter? He has proven at top clubs he can do a decent job and is very good at getting the most out of limited resources as he has proven at Fulham.

Personally I want rafa gone and i dont care if anyone slates me for it, the same as i dont slate people who want rafa to stay.

[Slinky Skills]

*disclaimer* this has been pinched off another forum

for those easily offended look away now ,it could be a little close to the bone !

Dear no alls,

I've already heard loads of bad teds (even matchgoing, loyal red, bad teds) saying that they don't rate the UEFA cup, that its mickey mouse etc etc. Yet if you'd said to the same people at the end of 2004 (pre Rafa) that they could go to a european final (having only been to one other in the previous 19 years) they'd be creaming themselves.

He's in his fourth European semi in 6 years.

Potentially his third European final in 6 years.

yet he's constantly now being given ****e by 50% of you; our loyal "fans".

Last year I had a discussion with a mate of mine in work who is a Newcastle fan. When they were going through the shearer debacle I reminded him that their fans had hounded out Dalglish, Gullit and Robson and that all of these managers would have kept Newcastle up. My point was that newcastle fans were to blame for their demise because their fans had delusions of grandeur.

Well, welcome to Newcastle you clueless biffs. Lets go through the reality:-

1. Financially, we cannot compete to win the league.
2. We are lucky to have done as well in the league as we did last year
3. Whilst we "exist to win trophies", remaining in Europe by late April/early May is a better barrometer of success than winning the league as that is realistically not going to happen whilst we fail to invest in the team.
4. Our manager has taken us from being so bad in Europe we were three down in Basle, Switzerland in a must win final group match to "Europe's top table", time after time after time.
5. If he goes/is hounded out, we won't be in three European semi finals or finals in the next 6 years.

I'm ****ing sick of you bellends rehearsing your bull****, fed by the know nothing media. I ****ing despise you all and I reserve the right to tell you that you are wrong vociferously at every available opportunity but quite frankly I'm ****ing fed up of having to do so.

Open your eyes and appreciate what you have. In the real world, sometimes, football teams have bad period and bad runs. **** it, some have bad seasons. But, you ****ing imbeciles, the same man you are now lambasting for getting us to a semi final of a european competition (for christ's sake!) is not the ****ing problem. In fact, your constant chelping, criticism and inability to support the club through a time of crisis is much more of a problem endemic in our club.

Most knowledgable fans in the werld.........what a ****ing joke.

Forza Rafa, Forza LFC.

**** off Dickheads.

Scully, kopite.

[qabiri]

Look people are failing to realise that we inspire our team by our support and they inspire us with their play both go hand in hand.
If we don't back Rafa now of all times we have only ourselves to blame.
Here's an example Portsmouth listen to their crowd hear how they back them up and their board has decimated their squad and they're relegated. Remember when all's said and done we only have one team and they need us now.Who do you think is to blame for their woes the manager or the board?
I for one do not want another 5 year plan at this moment because we may not survive it as a club.
People want other managers,some want at least one of our world class players sold, are you lot listening to yourselves?
It does not make sense to get rid of Rafa or Torres or Gerrard not at all.
Oh and world cup year is the most expensive time to rebuild your squad especially if you do not have much money.

We need unity and we need it now.

[Red Chilli]

Rafa and the team get plaenty of support at the match.

I don't think it is reasonable to equate that with what is written on an internet site.

He deserves the stick he's getting this season, our results and most of our performances have been an absolute disgrace. Anyone who disagrees with that hasn't been watching the team.

[Mike]

Rafa and the team get plaenty of support at the match.

I don't think it is reasonable to equate that with what is written on an internet site.

He deserves the stick he's getting this season, our results and most of our performances have been an absolute disgrace. Anyone who disagrees with that hasn't been watching the team.

Spot on

Just because he is our manager does not mean he is immune from stick.

I like him as a person, but not as a manager.

[qabiri]

Stick!,stick! I'm talking about character assassination.
Doesn't anybody remember our standing before Rafa took over Leverkusen and Basel were too good for us.
Rafa has had to put up with an absolutely amazing amount of interference with his plans for us and he's still here do you lot think Mourinho would? No way.
I know that i wont change your minds but as some people say just be careful what you wish for.