The New Manager Thread

[Frenchie]

i am so sat on the fence my arse has splinters. I just cant get out of my head his defensive mentality ( Rafa's not maureens) I just want us to go to the poorer teams in the premiership and go and take our game to them not the other way round.

Agree with you but he is taking his 3rd choice players and probably doesn't trust them.

Maureen would be worse. with a 5-5 formation

[Frenchie]

Morning mate, things are good thanks. All well with you, i hope.

Yeah thanks still emmigrating to Mexico cant wait..retirement in the sun

I may be wrong, i dunno. It's just a sneaking feeling. I honestly think senitment is a huge thing and maybe playing a bigger part for some people than they may realise. Just an inkling. As i said, it may not be correct, but it's just the instinctive feeling i get.

Can't please everyone, the media has everything to do with sentiment, too much power with the media moguls can destroy sentiment in a nano second, just look at Brown calling that woman a bigot yesterday totally blown out of proportion by the jackals...not that I'm voting Labour mind

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Agree with you but he is taking his 3rd choice players and probably doesn't trust them.

Maureen would be worse. with a 5-5 formation

good point. but then they are far better than the opposition on many occasions

[Exiled_red]

i am so sat on the fence my arse has splinters. I just cant get out of my head his defensive mentality ( Rafa's not maureens) I just want us to go to the poorer teams in the premiership and go and take our game to them not the other way round.

I know where you are coming from, I thought that we started the season with a more attack minded mentality, and when results went badly we tried to address this be being tighter at the back. I'd like to think that this is something Rafa has been attempting to refine, we have seen a slightly more positive side recently and I'm hoping this will continue. The main problem about attacking, direct, pacey flair players (which is what we need IMO) is that they are generally expensive, and we lack funds.

My problem with Mourinho is I don't think he's a manager who is suited to sticking things out for the long haul. Rafa is. If we went for Mourinho I think we'd be looking for another manager in 2-3 years

[Craig_H]

good point. but then they are far better than the opposition on many occasions

Ex-****ing-actly. I'd love to meet a manager who always gets his 'first choice' targets. I dont think there is one.

Do people think Roy Hodgson's first choice keeper is Schwarzer, over someone like Buffon or Reina? Would he really choose someone like Danny Murphy over a Messi or Xavi? Course not. But he gets the most out of what he has because he has to, because the world of football doesnt enable anyone to just cherry pick the best players, or justify failure with 'well i couldnt get messi, iniesta, xavi and cristiano ronaldo, so i couldnt finish 4th'.

Nobody's saying rafa's had ideal conditions to work with or that he hasnt been disrupted BUT the key point is, first choice targets or not, he has a squad of players, most of whom are better than their opponents in probably 30 odd league games out of 38. He has a squad which is at least the 4th best in the league, if not 3rd best. Yet we're 7th. This simply isnt good enough, no matter how it may be presented, with 'didnt get first choice targets' based arguments.

[Craig_H]

I know where you are coming from, I thought that we started the season with a more attack minded mentality, and when results went badly we tried to address this be being tighter at the back. I'd like to think that this is something Rafa has been attempting to refine, we have seen a slightly more positive side recently and I'm hoping this will continue. The main problem about attacking, direct, pacey flair players (which is what we need IMO) is that they are generally expensive, and we lack funds.

My problem with Mourinho is I don't think he's a manager who is suited to sticking things out for the long haul. Rafa is. If we went for Mourinho I think we'd be looking for another manager in 2-3 years

If he'd won us the league in his short spell, would you be complaining?

I'd happily take it. I'd accept having to find a new manager who'd have to come in and take over a team of champions.

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If he'd won us the league in his short spell, would you be complaining?

I'd happily take it. I'd accept having to find a new manager who'd have to come in and take over a team of champions.

I wouldn't be complaining if we won the championship, but there are no guarantees Mourinho would win it for us (or that Rafa wouldn't under the same circumstances).

All this stuff with the owners has shown me the importance of stability and what a lack of it can do. I wouldn't want a manager who would come in spend a huge amount of money (compared to what we have to spend now) be here for a couple of years and us then have to start over again 2-3 years later with a new manager overhauling the squad.

[Frenchie]

If he'd won us the league in his short spell, would you be complaining?

I'd happily take it. I'd accept having to find a new manager who'd have to come in and take over a team of champions.

Sorry dude I wouldn't want to win by feigning injury cheating and generally being part of the Maureen ragtime doodah band.

Don't like him, his way of playing, his team set up, his showmanship, the me me me, we are LFC a team with history, ethics, pass and move, a knowledgable fanbase, a great infrastructure thanks to Rafa, why would we jeapordise all that for a roll in the hay with a tart...

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

Want him to stay now.. **** it why lose faith.

[Frenchie]

Want him to stay now.. **** it why lose faith.

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Want him to stay now.. **** it why lose faith.

hmmmm how long you got?

[Vermilion]

I suspect, and it is only my opinion, that if we were in the same situation this time next year, plenty would be saying the same thing again - eg, 'give rafa one more year'.

Come on Craig, if we'd had another season like this one not many if any would be saying he should stay, imo.

It would obviously be dependant on taking the season as a whole...but if as you say we were in the same situation and next season was as bad as this, i don't belive i could back him further.

Unless he had half the squad and our better players sold from under him, and got little in the way of funding for new ones, then i'd need to look at it further.

But with some new signings, keep hold of our best players etc, and we still have a season as bad as this, that would do it for me.

[malg]

Why has Rafa left ?

[tomasjj]

New manager?
I thought we already had a manager.
I'll worry about such things when we are without a manager.

[Vermilion]

Why has Rafa left ?

New manager?
I thought we already had a manager.
I'll worry about such things when we are without a manager.

Exactly...mods, lock this thread please.