The New Manager Thread

[Vermilion]

Looks like MON may be leaving Villa this summer, what do people think about him taking over here?

Really ? Thought he just re-assured fans he'd be staying next season, after that rumour about him leaving had broken.

[Craig_H]

Oh yeah?

Did we defend when we went to Madrid and won last year? Mourihno set out their tactics to defend, played a central defender at left wing (which I've never seen Rafa do) and opted to use his intimidating tactics to upset Barca.

There has never a match under Rafa where we'd be playing with 10 defenders and have 0 shots on goal. Never. You'd say he was entitled to do that because he had the advantage of the first leg but Rafa's never done that even when we were 1-0 in front for that return leg against Madrid. We went all out for the attack and trounced them 4-0. I'm sure he'd have done the same if the opposition was Barca.

We've struggled with confidence all season and that's why we've never been able to be efficient away from home. Our away record last season shows that Rafa isn't defensive at all.

What dont you understand about the difference between going to Barca/Madrid for a 2nd leg, with a 2 goal lead and being reduced to 10 men - and going to Barca/Madrid for a first leg game, and keeping 11 men on the pitch?

Why do you treat these two vastly different scenarios, as the same? It's daft.

And furthermore, why do you think the failed Madrid of last season compares with this Barca side, the undoubted best team in the world?

You're not comparing like for like. As usual.

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Looks like MON may be leaving Villa this summer, what do people think about him taking over here?

Has he been spotted looking at houses on Merseyside yet?

[5europeancups]

Looks like MON may be leaving Villa this summer, what do people think about him taking over here?

I would be really pleased if O'neill came in.

The guy has passion and class. he knows his footy. He's worked with the best.

And he has a great track record

Definitely.

[MrMichael]

I'm starting to believe Rafa would be mad to stay even one more season. There's no reason to think Broughton will succeed where Purslow has failed so, unless something is really happening behind the scenes right now that will quickly transform the situation at the club, then Rafa will go somewhere he can succeed, Mourinho won't come within a million miles of taking the job, we'll get someone ****e in, the two thieves will still be siphoning off the money and wrecking the club and we will continue on the long road down from the top with no realistic prospect of returning.

Also, Labour is doomed, the Tories will get in with a working majority and we're all going to die.

Oh. That's probably about right isn't it.

Apart from the bit about the Tories.

Ex-****ing-actly. I'd love to meet a manager who always gets his 'first choice' targets. I dont think there is one.

Do people think Roy Hodgson's first choice keeper is Schwarzer, over someone like Buffon or Reina? Would he really choose someone like Danny Murphy over a Messi or Xavi? Course not. But he gets the most out of what he has because he has to, because the world of football doesnt enable anyone to just cherry pick the best players, or justify failure with 'well i couldnt get messi, iniesta, xavi and cristiano ronaldo, so i couldnt finish 4th'.

Nobody's saying rafa's had ideal conditions to work with or that he hasnt been disrupted BUT the key point is, first choice targets or not, he has a squad of players, most of whom are better than their opponents in probably 30 odd league games out of 38. He has a squad which is at least the 4th best in the league, if not 3rd best. Yet we're 7th. This simply isnt good enough, no matter how it may be presented, with 'didnt get first choice targets' based arguments.

This post I struggle to disagree with. I kind of want to, but I can't really. This season has been significantly under-par despite the mitigation.



For the love of all things holy though, when Inter win the Champions League (by kicking Robben and Ribery off the park I expect) will we finally be able to stop talking about Mourinho in LFC threads? In fact, I think if they do, I will ban it. For the sake of all our sanities, the man has been talked about far too much in this forum over the years, there is no possible thing that has not already been said about him several thousand times already... I'd debate running some sort of db query on his name but I'm scared of the answer ...... and there is no way, on earth, at all, even remotely, winning the CL again, that he would be coming here. If Rafa goes. None. It'd be like posting "sign Messi". Repeatedly. Just silly.

So it will be stopping when the saviour of football wins again. And goes to Madrid. At least he won't get to buy Torres then I suppose. Or at least it'll be going to the general footy forum..... or I swear I WILL have the *ban user from thread* mod installed with the site upgrade and test it extensively.

[Bender]

James Cameron ......even he can make us look good in 3D

[el matador]

i dont think rafa should go but if he does if we dont get an ivy league standard manager, our club will disintegrate quickly. Some one said Capello and that's not a bad shout, Hiddink, mourinho, pellegrini from real madrid when he gets sacked and even mark hughes as an outside bet

Gerrard has another 2 years left, carra has done his last as an automatic starter and take those two out of the team leaves us with a body with no soul.

[MrMichael]

You're not comparing like for like. As usual.

A ton of feathers or a ton of bricks Craig?

[Guest]

What dont you understand about the difference between going to Barca/Madrid for a 2nd leg, with a 2 goal lead and being reduced to 10 men - and going to Barca/Madrid for a first leg game, and keeping 11 men on the pitch?

Why do you treat these two vastly different scenarios, as the same? It's daft.

And furthermore, why do you think the failed Madrid of last season compares with this Barca side, the undoubted best team in the world?

You're not comparing like for like. As usual.

He started with Chivu as left wing so irrespective of the sending off he already signalled his intentions clear. Even if I'm not comparing like for like I don't think there's an enormous difference between playing Barca away and Real Madrid away under any circumstance.

You think things are as clear cut as this and that football is a science. You can't be farther from the truth.

I just don't understand how you say that Mourihno is a 'winner' but Rafa is not or is inferior. Both have a similar style and Mourihno's teams have all been built from the back. He's got a bigger mouth and is sexier, that's what impresses you probably.

[Mattshark]

Long ball, sprint merchant.

[Exiled_red]

Long ball, sprint merchant.

And people complain about the football we play now.

Be careful what you wish for...

[Mattshark]

And people complain about the football we play now.

Be careful what you wish for...

Sadly, people are ignorant.

[Craig_H]

He started with Chivu as left wing so irrespective of the sending off he already signalled his intentions clear. Even if I'm not comparing like for like I don't think there's an enormous difference between playing Barca away and Real Madrid away under any circumstance.

You think things are as clear cut as this and that football is a science. You can't be farther from the truth.

I just don't understand how you say that Mourihno is a 'winner' but Rafa is not or is inferior. Both have a similar style and Mourihno's teams have all been built from the back. He's got a bigger mouth and is sexier, that's what impresses you probably.

Of course his intention was clear - he was intending to defend a 3-1 lead. What part of that is hard to understand? If Rafa has us beating Barca 3-1 at home, he can play Cavalieri at left midfield, for all i care.

Of course there's a massive difference between our game at Madrid, and Inter's at Barca. A massive massive difference. Aside from the fact that Madrid of last season were nowhere near Barca of this season, are you actually trying to tell me that there's no real difference between being 0-0 and being 3-1 up? Christ, you're a gem

This whole 'science' thing is another bit of bollocks you like to roll out regularly too. I've never said it and you're making it the basis for your points. Truly bizarre

You ask what impresses me about Mourinho? Easy. He wins everywhere he goes. He manages to go something like 130 home league games unbeaten. He takes a side who hadnt been in the European Cup Final for something like 40 years, and takes them there. He took a side who hadnt won the league for about 50 years, and won back to back titles.

Ask anyone who isnt you, and they'd all agree that Mourinho is a superb manager.

You go by sentiment and unwavering loyalty to Benitez. I'll go by results.

[Craig_H]

Sadly, people are ignorant.

Not agreeing with you equates to 'ignorance'

Take a step back and tell me that doesnt come across as hugely arrogant.

[Guest]

Of course his intention was clear - he was intending to defend a 3-1 lead. What part of that is hard to understand? If Rafa has us beating Barca 3-1 at home, he can play Cavalieri at left midfield, for all i care.

Of course there's a massive difference between our game at Madrid, and Inter's at Barca. A massive massive difference. Aside from the fact that Madrid of last season were nowhere near Barca of this season, are you actually trying to tell me that there's no real difference between being 0-0 and being 3-1 up? Christ, you're a gem

This whole 'science' thing is another bit of bollocks you like to roll out regularly too. I've never said it and you're making it the basis for your points. Truly bizarre

You ask what impresses me about Mourinho? Easy. He wins everywhere he goes. He manages to go something like 130 home league games unbeaten. He takes a side who hadnt been in the European Cup Final for something like 40 years, and takes them there. He took a side who hadnt won the league for about 50 years, and won back to back titles.

Ask anyone who isnt you, and they'd all agree that Mourinho is a superb manager.

You go by sentiment and unwavering loyalty to Benitez. I'll go by results.

I've never said that Mourihno isn't a good manager just that he is despicable.

Take that. Notice the difference? Rafa played for the win.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1355910535504649550#