Riera

[danperkins]

Mate, if you had any modicum of sensibleness in your posts, I think a lot of people would give you credit for it. But judging by this post, you are clearly leaving yourself to be shot at. What are you trying to achieve with this?



Then this.



Granted that he had an attitude problem but to state that he was only 'left footed' and 'never gave us width' is preposterous to say the least.

Hmmm what am i trying to achieve? Other than giving my opinion just like you, eh nothing!! Lets not try start a ****storm here Nigel! You have your opinion and i have mine, what the **** is wrong with that, stop making a big deal of things, we don't agree, so what get over it!!

Now Evidence: Riera failed at 2 premier league clubs, 1 goal and 6 assists in 2 seasons playing at LM, but sure if your happy with that productivity all power to ya. Average player, failed in England twice and rightly playing in a lesser league.

Actually how exactly did Reira give us width as a matter of interest?

[Fredo]

Hmmm what am i trying to achieve? Other than giving my opinion just like you, eh nothing!!

Riera failed at 2 premier league clubs, 1 goal and 6 assists in 2 seasons playing at LM, but sure if your happy with that productivity all power to ya. Average player, failed in England twice and rightly playing in a lesser league.

Riera didn't 'fail'. It wasn't a coincidence that we achieved 2nd in the league whilst he was regularly playing. His last season was a failure, but I don't think it resumed itself at that, unless you apply simplistic reasoning like you do.

[danperkins]

Riera didn't 'fail'. It wasn't a coincidence that we achieved 2nd in the league whilst he was regularly playing. His last season was a failure, but I don't think it resumed itself at that, unless you apply simplistic reasoning like you do.

Nigel common: 1 goal and 6 assists in "2' seasons as a "LM". How simplistic is that for you? A LM needs some sort of productivity, Riera didn't give us that and "failed" like he did at Man City. Avergae player with a bad attitude, sure there was a long list of clubs after him when he left us, who's he with again?

Yeah we finished 2nd because Reira was vital with his mass productivity. We finished second because we have players like Alonso/Gerrard/Torres & Kuyt on flying form, nothing to do with Albert Reira.

[Fernandinho]

1 goal and 6 assist in 2 season, IMO thats enough said.

Youtube is irrelevant,sure Lucas was scoring 30 yarders on there and looked like Messi. I watched Riera play full games live and on tv, he killed any spontaneity in our play and made us so predictable and narrow the way he plays, lazy ******* aswell. The guy seriously lacked productivity and the ability to make it in the premier league.

Failed at 2 premier league clubs and rightfully playing in a lesser league.

You and I both know it wasn't two seasons. He played one full season in 08/09 then a handful of games in 2009/2010. Considering most people would allow players a full season to adjust to the PL (Elmander showing it this season) I would say his first season was quite a success. He also scored at least 1 goal in the CL which was an absolute cracker to go with the peach of a volley he scored vs Aston Villa from a Reina kick. He scored more than 2 goals for us in the PL too. A late goal vs Wigan which salvaged a draw or a win for us as well as the Villa volley.

Also, you can throw those stats about assists and goals at lots of players. Look at Alonso in that season and you will probably find his assists and goals in that season were very similar. Doesn't mean Alonso had a bad season.

As I said, any youtube video can make a player look good. But it wasn't just about the goal in the CL and the volley vs Aston villa. It was the number of highlights of play he was involved in. His intelligent dribbling for one. I can't believe you said he couldn't beat a man. He was very underated on the ball and added a touch of creativeness with his flicks and drag backs. Not to mention his rocket of a left foot which we are lacking on either wings now.

[danperkins]

Riera got 3 goals and 6 assists in the 2 seasons he was with LFC. My bad, those 3 goals and 3 assists where instrumental in our title bid

[Shaggy]

Riera is a decent player but although ultimately he flattered to deceive, we were always a better side with him in it. The one full season he was here we achieved a record PL points tally, should've won the league and it was our best side for 20 years. He was a regular in it.

[danperkins]

You and I both know it wasn't two seasons. He played one full season in 08/09 then a handful of games in 2009/2010. Considering most people would allow players a full season to adjust to the PL (Elmander showing it this season) I would say his first season was quite a success. He also scored at least 1 goal in the CL which was an absolute cracker to go with the peach of a volley he scored vs Aston Villa from a Reina kick. He scored more than 2 goals for us in the PL too. A late goal vs Wigan which salvaged a draw or a win for us as well as the Villa volley.

Also, you can throw those stats about assists and goals at lots of players. Look at Alonso in that season and you will probably find his assists and goals in that season were very similar. Doesn't mean Alonso had a bad season.

As I said, any youtube video can make a player look good. But it wasn't just about the goal in the CL and the volley vs Aston villa. It was the number of highlights of play he was involved in. His intelligent dribbling for one. I can't believe you said he couldn't beat a man. He was very underated on the ball and added a touch of creativeness with his flicks and drag backs. Not to mention his rocket of a left foot which we are lacking on either wings now.

Em Alonso was and is a deep lying holding midfielder, in no way can be compared to a "Left Midfielder" who is meant to provide goals and assists. Thats like comparing Carra to Torres, makes no sense mate.

Do you think that 3 goals and 6 assists in 40 league games is an acceptable tally for any successful left midfielder playing at LFC? I just can't accept that. Reira didn't play as much the second season as he wasn't good enough and had a lousy attitude. Different opinions are thats fair enough but Riera failed for me at LFC and evidence and stats are there to prove it IMO.

[DannyMan2006]

Like him or loath him, he was key in our title bid and he is missed. He wasn't exactly top class, but he made the team gell. He wouldn't be missed if Cole or Jova had been half decent, sadly that's not been the case.

Incredible how despite having a decent spine lfc have for too long had average players on the flanks.

[red g]

Riera is a decent player but although ultimately he flattered to deceive, we were always a better side with him in it. The one full season he was here we achieved a record PL points tally, should've won the league and it was our best side for 20 years. He was a regular in it.

is the right answer. He wasnt that great its more a reflection on how poor our wingman have been in the last 10 years that we believe he was that good.

[danperkins]

is the right answer. He wasnt that great its more a reflection on how poor our wingman have been in the last 10 years that we believe he was that good.

valid point its ridiculous that we haven't nailed down a good winger at this stage, sorely missing.

[Fernandinho]

He did his job. You can't have 11 world class players in your team. You need guys like Riera/Kuyt who are going to support the Torres' and Gerrard's of your teams who can keep the play moving and offer the odd goal. Riera did that very well for us and never looked out place among some of if not the best players in the PL that season.

[danperkins]

He did his job. You can't have 11 world class players in your team. You need guys like Riera/Kuyt who are going to support the Torres' and Gerrard's of your teams who can keep the play moving and offer the odd goal. Riera did that very well for us and never looked out place among some of if not the best players in the PL that season.

Thats your opinion and thats fair enough, but i prefer my wingers to produce more than 3 goals and 3 assists in one season. With players around him like Torres/Gerrard/Kuyt/Alonso/Masch his productivity should have been so much better. Sure other wise whats he there for? A winger has to have some sort of productivity to be called a winger.

[Fredo]

It's simplistic to analyse a player's worth based on individual stats Perkins. We needed balance and he provided that. Him and Aurelio gave us excellent width on the left, he didn't really need to 'beat his player and cross it'. Aurelio provided a superb foil for him.

I'd be interested to know the statistics for the total output of our left hand side during that 2008-2009 season. With Fabio chipping in with a few goals, added with the assists and crosses etc ..., I'd guess it was fairly productive.

[Fernandinho]

It's simplistic to analyse a player's worth based on individual stats Perkins. We needed balance and he provided that. Him and Aurelio gave us excellent width on the left, he didn't really need to 'beat his player and cross it'. Aurelio provided a superb foil for him.

I'd be interested to know the statistics for the total output of our left hand side during that 2008-2009 season. With Fabio chipping in with a few goals, added with the assists and crosses etc ..., I'd guess it was fairly productive.

Its also no secret we played slightly unbalanced. The left side with Riera and Aurelio played much wider than the right. Kuyt spent much more time infield and was closer to goal, so able to score many more goals.

I think it is also fair to say that we scored enough goals that season to win the comp so we had the right balance.

Also, as you ignored/didn't realise, it was his first season here with us. Most people take 1 full season in the PL to adjust, in his first season he was a vital cog in a team which nearly went all the way against a United side that only a student of the game would not call very talented to say the least.

[danperkins]

It's simplistic to analyse a player's worth based on individual stats Perkins. We needed balance and he provided that. Him and Aurelio gave us excellent width on the left, he didn't really need to 'beat his player and cross it'. Aurelio provided a superb foil for him.

I'd be interested to know the statistics for the total output of our left hand side during that 2008-2009 season. With Fabio chipping in with a few goals, added with the assists and crosses etc ..., I'd guess it was fairly productive.

Aurelio is not a bombing left back Nigel, never has been even before he came to LFC so that "Reira cuts in and lets the LB go beyond" is nonsense. Aurelio has a lovely left foot but he is no Ashley Cole, Insua was/is better at doing that than Aurelio IMO( best part of Insua's game is his runs).

And i watched every game that season, so i'm not just going on the stats as you suggest. Fabio scored 2 goals and 4 assists that season in the league from 25 ish games, Insua played 9 i think and got "0' goals and assists. And thats taking into account Aurelio takes corners and free kicks Nige. So from the stats and evidence our left side was not exactly the source of attacking strength, as i have said already.

Torrs/Gerrard/Alonso/Kuyt were the main reasons why we scored goals.