Scum vs Liverpool match thread

[Mostar]

No matter how you dress it up this is our worst start for 18 years, 1 win in 5.

Well we have next 5 winnible games and if we get 15 out of 15 points, which we should, we will be in close contention for top 4.

For me the season of the turnaround starts now.

3pts of Champions league places with an easy run now.

nobody has had a harder start than us.

Absolutely. We played with 3 out of 4 best teams in PL (2 away) and it was difficult to expect more than what we achieved with the current team.

Ronaldo, Rooney, now its Berbatovs year to win them games on his own.

Quite a few postives for me despite the fact sitting here I want to smash Nani's face into the ground and kick the **** out of the cheating cunt.

Poulsen had a decent game. RM looks very useful. On a pitch that wasn't so heavy, the inter play between Cole, Gerrard, RM, Poulsen and Johnson will be much better.

We've always lost our fair share of games here, next match is must win.

I'd say in next 5 we should win every single one. If that happens we should have a great momentum for the game vs. Chavs at home.

Cole looked lively to, some lovely running into space, not all of us balls came off but then think that will come as torres starts to fire again

Cole is the missing link imo. He had a good game and bar injuries he will deliver this season.

Poulsen was ****ing brilliant 2nd half.

And yes our defence was ****ing abysmal. Seriously worrying.

The only real positive thing imo in this game.

Liked his tackling, demanded the ball, was not afraid to pass long and foward etc.

He had a good game.

[CJ]

He did have a much better 2nd half, but still it's a bit like saying Clare Balding is more attractive than Bella Emberg.

but Clare bats for her side so your still stuck with Bella.

if you like that type of thing

[Dalglish]

get over yourself. He had a good second half.

We disagree

[Fredo]

I didn't think we played that badly but we have reverted to really sloppy defending again. We very rarely conceded stupid goals such as that when Benitez was in charge and it doesn't seem we're getting a grip at improving on that front either. We got back in the game with two set pieces, then Hodgson dubiously switches to 4-4-2 which gave them the edge in midfield again. Strange, as I felt we had more or less control of it before we conceded our first goal.

Very poor start to the season but it was a tough one and considering we have got a lot of new personnel, including the manager, it's probably been on the cards.

Still, it's another season where we'll be playing for scraps in the league and I can see things getting worse when we lose Torres next season.

[Leyton388]

The lack of another striker yet again is a big concern. Rafa didn't address it and neither has Roy.

[CJ]

but we still lost how many despite controlling them?

so do you think we are making progress?

it cant be better to not control games and lose than to control and lose.

if you are controling them then you only need to work at how to make and take the chances

at the moment there is a huge amount of work there for Roy and his team.

[Tatterdemalion]

fair enough, I can't disagree with you but I do see why we did what we did, bearing in mind how we are still learning what Hodgson wants to do. The question that none of us can answer though is, 'did Hodgson tell them to try and hold on to the end or is it just the players mentality especially after a number of seasons of playing like we thought a one-nil lead would be enough in every game?' (I do realise we weren't winning this game.)

I think his substitutions would answer that question for you. I'm still prepared to give him time, as you say you can't impose your methods that quickly, it takes time. But I think he's going to have to be a bit more aggressive if he wants to win games.


We've had 3 very tough games in the prem so far and we've looked second class in each of them, but we'll have a good run of easier games from now on.

[JohnDoe]

What concerns me most is the we didn't even look dominant against West Brom at home, we have lost shape, lost control of games and look a poorer side than last season.

We're playing with ten men most games. We need to field a full eleven every week. Our team isn't very good either way, but when you're a man or two down it's difficult to impose your will on games.

[Shaggy]

How anyone can say that Poulsen was anything other than average either didnt watch the game or just doesnt get football.

He did have a much better 2nd half, but still it's a bit like saying Clare Balding is more attractive than Bella Emberg.

[cream]

Poor team performance, disappointing from Torres, Cole, the defence has lost the plot, Konchesky was dog**** and Maxi probably the worst player in the squad at the moment. Otherwise not to bad.

[G]

The lack of chances we are creating is very worrying,even on thusrday we didnt create very much yet ended up with 4 goals.

Lack of scoring chances and players capable of taking them coupled with a leaky defence is a recipe for disaster.

I thought it was time we changed manager but only if we could replace him with someone better and sadly we didnt manage that at all

We should be less concerned about our results against these type of teams now,we are at a level well below that until we get new owners which is unlikely

[BobTheCharmer]

We've been worse this year than last in my opinion thus far, at least we controlled games more often than not.

but we still lost how many despite controlling them?

[SimonNo7]

I can't find where I mentioned his job...

Maybe I misunderstood, 'clock is ticking Roy...'?

If I did then apologies

[chadrtc]

What about last season?

We've been worse this year than last in my opinion thus far, at least we controlled games more often than not.

[BobTheCharmer]

How anyone can say that Poulsen was anything other than average either didnt watch the game or just doesnt get football.

get over yourself. He had a good second half.