Post-mortem Northampton

[Mattshark]

And Rafa challenged once, and then came 7th, in 5 years. Even under Houllier we managed 4th in his final, depressing season.

So, he never had enough to challenge every season.

Position alone is misleading.

[cream]

Agree but when you have such a big squad full of players who need game time you have to fit them all in don't you?



I agree about spearing I don't rate him. But the rest of those players starting would have made our team even more inexperienced.



But he made 11 changes so you can't blame him for them not gelling immediately. Man Utd made 11 changes too. Nobody complained about this before the game, everyone was happy that we were using the compitition to try the fringe players



I think only one of the fringe players that played today were really signed by Hodgson.



Yes but its also not as simple as saying that its entirely because of the manager. Im not happy with Hodgson either, as much as I wanted Rafa gone I never wanted Hodgson. But I certainly don't blame tonight on him, he picked the team most us would have wanted to see on the park. Infact I would say it was our 2 experienced centre-backs who cost us the goals. That donkey Kyriakos who was a Rafa signing as you well know.

The point us I doubt many were unhappy with the team selection tonight, fringe players getting game time in our 4th priority compitition. You can't purely blame the manager. Is it not Ryan Babel's fault for failing to perform against Northampton? Or the rest of them? This is Rafa's squad remember and Rafa's signings who played ****

Not really bothered who signed who, the fact remains our squad is pretty ****, especially the reserves and the youngsters, which have been **** for years. We get the occasional wankfest over some youngster but nobody is really breaking down any doors.

[Mattshark]

Fair enough, if that's true. I wont argue with Statto

We must've been god damn awful going forward then.

We were!

[DannyMan2006]

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Originally Posted by DannyMan2006
I couldn't care less tbh. Rafa didn't want to stay because of the Yanks and made his situation unworkable himself by finishing 7th and crashing out in the CL, compounded by buying a crock to replace Alonso - a player he pushed out the door.

If one manager leaves, another has to come in. I'm none the wiser as to who we interviewed for the job, but in a situation where the term could be until October, who in their right mind is going to apply for the job?





you couldn't care less ?

and your judging him on one bad season and one questionable buy ...your not a geordie are you ?...

I've already answered this, feel free to look back through the posts. in a nutshell it was Rafa had 5 years, had more than one questionable buy, won no major trophy for his final three years. Etc.

[Arn]

He's an old man. He clearly can't see himself at the start of a long term ferige like dynasty. He wanted, quite understandably, to have LFC manager near the end of his CV, a kind of crowning glory with which to retire. I'm sure he had no hesitation signing, whatever the terms.

That would mean that he only thought about himself and didn't care about what is best for the club at all.

The club needed a manager that could fight his corner, like Rafa did. Not a manager that is totally powerless.

A strong manager that would be prepared to look silly, dumb or whatever as long as he got it his way, like Rafa.

[Neil Young]

And Rafa challenged once, and then came 7th, in 5 years. Even under Houllier we managed 4th in his final, depressing season.

Sacking the manager after one bad season is not the way to make progress, especially if you get in someone else who lacks the calibre to make a significant improvement.

It's f*cking nonsensical.

[Kenneth]

So, he never had enough to challenge every season.

Position alone is misleading.

Indeed. Second was probably an over-achievement.

[wiw]

Soooo...the game....anyone?

[DannyMan2006]

He did take the blame, funnily enough by the same people who are supporting Roy now

And the same people supporting Rafa for the same mistakes are now having a go at Roy.

Circle of life, eh?

[Neil Young]

That would mean that he only thought about himself and didn't care about what is best for the club at all.

The club needed a manager that could fight his corner, like Rafa did. Not a manager that is totally powerless.

A strong manager that would be prepared to look silly, dumb or whatever as long as he got it his way, like Rafa.

And that's why Purslow sacked him.

[Craig_H]

We were!

I know. But we must've been even worse than i remember.

Where does it all end? The only thing keeping me going is the vain hope (based on logic, but diminished by continuous letdowns) that a takeover & new owners must surely be imminent. Please?

Thank **** we've got a game on Saturday (and not sunday) this weekend. Only 2 more days of the post-Northampton bollocks, and we get our 1st XI back in action and (hopefully) winning.

[Mattshark]

I know. But we must've been even worse than i remember.

Where does it all end? The only thing keeping me going is the vain hope (based on logic, but diminished by continuous letdowns) that a takeover & new owners must surely be imminent. Please?

Thank **** we've got a game on Saturday (and not sunday) this weekend. Only 2 more days of the post-Northampton bollocks, and we get our 1st XI back in action and (hopefully) winning.

I know how you feel.

[Kenneth]

That would mean that he only thought about himself and didn't care about what is best for the club at all.

The club needed a manager that could fight his corner, like Rafa did. Not a manager that is totally powerless.

A strong manager that would be prepared to look silly, dumb or whatever as long as he got it his way, like Rafa.

Why would he be focused on the club? He's not a Liverpool man, he's a journeyman and there's only so much love he can spread around. He's a man doing a job for us (good or bad).

[JohnDoe]

And the same people supporting Rafa for the same mistakes are now having a go at Roy.

Circle of life, eh?

Rafa is clearly a better manager than Roy though, and sacking him to appoint Roy is a move which is rightfully being criticized, whatever the results Rafa has had last season, Roy is going to do worse.

[Arn]

And that's why Purslow sacked him.