Stoke Post Match...

[Lecter]

The recruitment of Comolli does not indicate a lack of faith in Hodgson. It's just the way they want to go. Comolli will still be in his position when we get a new manager in. They want long term thinking and Comolli does that for them.

They work with the same strategy in the USA and they are comfortable with and understand that system. It makes sense that they adopt the same system over here.

Comolli will outline his remit this week

I am looking forward to this proving you wrong

[badpiggy]

Because maybe a caretaker manager isnt permanent, whereas a 'standard' manager is? Far easier to get rid of a caretaker who doesnt have a longterm contract.

The fact that Kenny knows what a winning mentality is, knows everything about LFC and would indeed command the respect of the players, is plenty of reasons enough.

Because we all know that when getting a new manager in we have to look long term. So it would be right to wait for the right man. Whether that is to identify or otherwise. Bringing in a caretaker is a short term role and as such only a short term view is needed.

Well surely in this case the responsibilites of a long or short term manager are the same - get us the **** up the table to a CL position where we can actually attract the quality of player our owners can probably afford to buy. I have no idea how you can be so sure than an essentially retired ex-manager can do this.

And the idea of it being easier to get rid of a short term manager - sacking Kenny Dalglish because he wasn't up to the job and failed to arrest our decline would be easy and have no repercussions with the fans? Any sensibel new owner would avoid this scenario like the plague.

Craig I kinda admire your willingness to argue endlessly but in this case I think your frustration has led to you backing yourself into an unsustainable argument. To not even admit the possibility that appointing Kenny could be potentially very damaging is just ridiculous.

[Craig_H]

Well surely in this case the responsibilites of a long or short term manager are the same - get us the **** up the table to a CL position where we can actually attract the quality of player our owners can probably afford to buy. I have no idea how you can be so sure than an essentially retired ex-manager can do this.

And the idea of it being easier to get rid of a short term manager - sacking Kenny Dalglish because he wasn't up to the job and failed to arrest our decline would be easy and have no repercussions with the fans? Any sensibel new owner would avoid this scenario like the plague.

Craig I kinda admire your willingness to argue endlessly but in this case I think your frustration has led to you backing yourself into an unsustainable argument. To not even admit the possibility that appointing Kenny could be potentially very damaging is just ridiculous.

For the same reasons i already listed - and that you chose to ignore. It's not an 'unsustainable' argument FFS, you just asked for reasons and then ignored them. And 'argue endlessly'...FFS. When you post an opinion, you're just doing that. When it's me, i'm 'arguing endlessly' - well if you post a reply to me, shall i just ignore you in future and not reply?

Add to that, the fact that nobody could do any worse.

And it wouldnt be 'sacking' KD, because he would only have been given it on a temp basis anyway.

[Shaggy]

Re Carra yesterday - two posts from B_H_B on RAOTL when asked about what happened:

Hodgson got dogs abuse coming towards us to go down the tunnel and carragher had a pop at us all and got it back. He's a cheeky ****.




So did I and I seen it. Carra had a pop and got it back.

Everyone abused Roy then applauded the players and Carra had a pop at everyone down in that corner. He's one cheeky ****

http://forum.raotl.co.uk/viewtopic.p...75536&start=15

Gazelle1892 Post subject: Re: Carragher having a go at the fans at the end...
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:24 pm
Forum Phil Boersma
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:11 pm
Posts: 1715 We were right on the front row by the tunnel, he referred to me and another of our lads as '****ing pricks' for telling him to tell Hodgson to walk.

[badpiggy]

For the same reasons i already listed - and that you chose to ignore. It's not an 'unsustainable' argument FFS, you just asked for reasons and then ignored them.

Add to that, the fact that nobody could do any worse.

And it wouldnt be 'sacking' KD, because he would only have been given it on a temp basis anyway.

Because maybe a caretaker manager isnt permanent, whereas a 'standard' manager is? Far easier to get rid of a caretaker who doesnt have a longterm contract.

The fact that Kenny knows what a winning mentality is, knows everything about LFC and would indeed command the respect of the players, is plenty of reasons enough.

I assume they're the ones I'm quoting here -

No offence to Kenny, but if he had that vital winnner's mentality still operating at the 100% that is needed to be a top manager, then why isn't he out there managing someone? Cos the right job never came up?

Knows everything about LFC? In fairness so what - I'd bet Sammy lee does as well and so did Graeme Souness and any amount of passionate ex-LFC players. Means very little without the managerial chops to back it up.

And I suppose we'll just have to disagree that he would automatically command the players' respect. My point here would be that it might be the case to start but if he didn't get us going again fairly fast, it would almost certainly convince the likes of Torres and Rerina to get the **** out of here as fast as possible.

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[RichC]

I assume they're the ones I'm quoting here -

No offence to Kenny, but if he had that vital winnner's mentality still operating at the 100% that is needed to be a top manager, then why isn't he out there managing someone? Cos the right job never came up?

Knows everything about LFC? In fairness so what - I'd bet Sammy lee does as well and so did Graeme Souness and any amount of passionate ex-LFC players. Means very little without the managerial chops to back it up.

And I suppose we'll just have to disagree that he would automatically command the players' respect. My point here would be that it might be the case to start but if he didn't get us going again fairly fast, it would almost certainly convince the likes of Torres and Rerina to get the **** out of here as fast as possible.

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To be fair part of the reason the King hasn't managed was due to his wife's illness and taking on a lot of charity work over the past 10 years.

Remember that the one thing the King has over anyone else that's laced their boots at Anfield is the fact he is the most iconic player to have ever played for us, all fans and indeed players know this, he'd have respect, no doubt about this at all.

I still think NESV will do things with the big picture in mind rather than a stop gap situation with Kenny but nobody is sure what NESV are doing behind the scenes in terms of the club.

[Craig_H]

To be fair part of the reason the King hasn't managed was due to his wife's illness and taking on a lot of charity work over the past 10 years.

Remember that the one thing the King has over anyone else that's laced their boots at Anfield is the fact he is the most iconic player to have ever played for us, all fans and indeed players know this, he'd have respect, no doubt about this at all.

I still think NESV will do things with the big picture in mind rather than a stop gap situation with Kenny but nobody is sure what NESV are doing behind the scenes in terms of the club.

Dalglish is the club's greatest ever player and one of the best managers in english football. Who WOULDNT look upto him?

[Drago]

The King over Roy Hodgson. No contest now just like it should have been in June/July.

[the rev leeroy brown]

Dalglish is the club's greatest ever player and one of the best managers in english football. Who WOULDNT look upto him?

peter crouch would look down on him - boom boom.

[RichC]

Dalglish is the club's greatest ever player and one of the best managers in english football. Who WOULDNT look upto him?

He most certainly is.

Clearly there has been some player power going on both prior to Roy and since Roy - I guess with Kenny that would come to an end rapidly, any currently player that went up against Kenny in the eyes of the fans would come out a poor 2nd and I mean any of out players.

My stance on all this though is we need to give NESV time to get things right, whether it's kenny short term or wait it out to get the right man (as long as there is no chance the right man is Roy!) we need to back JWH et al.

Did you go yesterday by the way ?

[Craig_H]

No, i didnt go yesterday. I was at a birthday party, so i couldnt go. Shame, eh?

[RichC]

No, i didnt go yesterday. I was at a birthday party, so i couldnt go. Shame, eh?

yeah I'm sure you were gutted!

fingers crossed something gives this week, you look at the players we have, the performances and the stats in terms of goal difference etc.... and what seems to be pot shots at players in the press things will change sooner rather than later.

Amazing we're still only 6 points of 4th still with how we've been playing this season so far!

[Craig_H]

NESV having a meeting with him either tomorrow or tuesday, apparently.

[little dave hedgehog]

please, expand.

[Craig_H]

What more do you want? There's a meeting taking place between the owners and Hodgson either tomorrow or tuesday. Apparently.