Tired of it

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Beginning of the 2008-2009 season was when I first started to really follow Liverpool rather then just being a fan of the league, and let me say from experience if I was a glory hunter it would have been Chelsea and United. Without doubt, all my mates started picking teams then and if you ask any of us we would have said Chelsea and United without even thinking Liverpool. Mind you its different over here we don't get much Europe news and we only really hear about who wins. Nonetheless picking Liverpool was no glory hunting.

On another note, seeing our results lately I might start following Chelsea

Just a random question.?..........if it was the beginning of the 2008/2009 season tht would make you around 16???( guessing) is that the average age of an aussie to start choosing teams? obviously over here its a lot younger due to family pressures normally you grow up with a team.......

[banditos]

I'm far from a superfan, but what winds me up more than our lack of recent success is all the bitching about it as if its a right. I was very downbeat during the G&H era due to the lurch away from "the liverpool way", success comes and goes but I always had the fall back solace that LFC was LFC. We're getting back to that way again and with that I have renewed patience with our performances.

Part of what I believe lead to the arrival of G&H was whinging ****s who lacked the patinece to value David Moores for what he was, many still can't see it now and that winds me up. The vast majority of football fans support their team decade after decade without ever winning anything and yo uhave to respect that, so to come on here now after the last 4 or 5 years and suddenly have had enough realy grinds my gears, it's a symptom of people just not getting what drew me to the club in the first place and I find that far more worrying long term than our current footballing situation. If we can be Liverpool the football will fall into place. I remember Kluivert and co playing us off the park for Barcelona a few years ago, back when we felt giddy and undeserving at being on the same pitch as them, did we bitch and moan or start booing our own? Did we ****, we gave Barca a standing ovation for the lesson. That's Liverpool!

Fair enough mate and I agree with this. I thought you were a bit harsh on the lad though.

[banditos]

Just a random question.?..........if it was the beginning of the 2008/2009 season tht would make you around 16???( guessing) is that the average age of an aussie to start choosing teams? obviously over here its a lot younger due to family pressures normally you grow up with a team.......

I was 11 or 12 when I started supporting the reds, mainly because Craig Johnston was playing for them at the time. There certainly weren't any local teams for me to support (not being of greek or croatian heritage, i didn't feel drawn to South Melbourne Hellas or Melbourne Croatia ).

I suspect young fernandinho may have had a Seria A team that he followed up until he realised that the Italian league is now pants.

[JHP]

I do feel quite sorry for people who were too young to remember the late 70s and 80s. They were great, great times to be a Liverpool fan, even though there was absolute tragedy mixed with the success.

I still think that the greatest single performance I've seen in any club match was our 5-0 demolition of Forest in April 1988 where we played football that makes the current Arsenal team look like a bunch of hoofers.

Liverpool vs Notts Forest 1988
For those of us that remember that, the scale of our fall from grace is hard to take (although at least we're not Forest fans - they finished 3rd in Division 1 that year, and look how far they fell).

As for being tired of supporting Liverpool, I know where the OP is coming from. That tiredness isn't helped by the way that football teams now play out their business off the pitch in the full media glare. I think back to when Evans replaced Souness, and when Houllier joined Evans - in both cases the vast majority of fans only knew when they saw the press conference. Now everything that we do is dissected in minute detail by a hostile press.

When (not if) Hodgson goes, we'll all start to feel a lot better about things. When (not if) more players than just Reina, Gerrard, Carragher and Soto show real passion and commitment, we'll stop feeling that it's all about the money. And when (not if) we win number 19, we might be able to look back and realise that NESV made the right changes, but took their time to make sure that they were right.

I've generally got a poor memory of past games but the game against Forest (who at the time were a really good team) sticks in my memory. I think it was the most impressive game of football I've ever seen.

[Craig_H]

Just a random question.?..........if it was the beginning of the 2008/2009 season tht would make you around 16???( guessing) is that the average age of an aussie to start choosing teams? obviously over here its a lot younger due to family pressures normally you grow up with a team.......

Fernandinho is 18, i believe.

[Fernandinho]

Craig got it I was 16 I think when I started following. Most of my mates started getting into it really give or take a few months. Before that we all still kinda followed it but becase it was hard to watch the games it was just an interest more than anything. Once we got a little older I think the fact that we were staying up late to watch it live drew us to teams we liked...