Do you want Rafa back?

[Kenneth]

Yeah. A bit mental that.

[Qantaga]

That should be instant sin-bin or something. It's the type of thing you would expect to hear coming from a stupid persons **** who then had a **** who then said that. It's stupider than a stupid persons ****s ****.

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[Lecter]

I suppose you have to ask yourself the question as to whether you think Rafa wants to play that sort of footbal or felt he had to in order to get results? I think the answer is plainly the latter. He loves football, he doesn't love it because **** tactics can make it dull, does he?

Rafa is a Sacchi disciple

The Sacchi AC Milan side is the pinnacle of what that system can achieve and the best that Rafa has managed was the season we finished 2nd (and maybe Valencia in his final season)

Rafa failed because the Sacchi system isnt flexible enough it has to have specific players of a specific type to function. When we finished 2nd we had most of those players but last year the players brought in / playing werent suitable and then the whole thing goes to ****

Some of that wasnt Rafa's fault because he wanted some players he didnt get (for whatever reason) but he some of the ones he actually wanted also didnt work within the system

Now to me you cant make the system exciting and expansive its a crushing machine, the moment you step outside the principles of the Sacchi system then the whole system falls down like a pack of cards

[hamshanks]

He persisted in playing two holding midfielders in home games against inferior opposition when a more attacking formation could have won ( and also could have lost) those matches. proof for me that he set out not to lose games.

Also loads of baffling substitutions ala taking Torres off when we played Birmingham (the day Stevie shook his head in disbelief)

actually that wasn't baffling in the cold light of day, that was the start of Torres' injury problems and Rafa was aware of his problems.

[Lecter]

I am not surprised. We are having a nightmare with a **** manager and someone asks whether you want a better manager instead....

Put a dozen top managers (including rafa) in a poll and ask who should replace Roy and there is no way 11 of them would get 30% of the vote between them.

[joyno]

would take him back in a heartbeat, with help with signings and no distractions with the ownership and therefore his concentration on coaching, i would be elated.

[Shanks]

No.. No.. No..

Needs to know when to keep his mouth shut and wouldn't know a good thing if it smacked him in the face..

His comments after that World Club Win was his own undoing..

Don't let your heart rule your head..

[joyno]

No.. No.. No..

Needs to know when to keep his mouth shut and wouldn't know a good thing if it smacked him in the face..

His comments after that World Club Win was his own undoing..

Don't let your heart rule your head..

my heart has always ruled my head where liverpool fc are concerned, bring him back now.

[Will]

Go with your heart, our heads only screw things up

[joyno]

who is out there that understands and knows what this club is all about and knows what the fans want and understands the modern game, and will learn by his mistakes, Rafa

[Kenneth]

who is out there that understands and knows what this club is all about and knows what the fans want and understands the modern game, and will learn by his mistakes, Rafa

Knowing what the fans want is easy. To win stuff, and for the manager not to be a dick. Any top manager will understand the modern game. Knowing the club, well anyone who hasn't been stuck in a snowy wilderness for decades will have a good idea and can certainly learn. Ability and vision for the future are more relevant traits looking forward. Probably not Rafa.

[rnm]

Don't let your heart rule your head....from a fan of the most emotional club on the planet!

Walk on walk on with hope in your heart, not sense in your head.

[joyno]

Knowing what the fans want is easy. To win stuff, and for the manager not to be a dick. Any top manager will understand the modern game. Knowing the club, well anyone who hasn't been stuck in a snowy wilderness for decades will have a good idea and can certainly learn. Ability and vision for the future are more relevant traits looking forward. Probably not Rafa.

i forgot to mention the word passion and that is what drives me on through good times and bad, that is why i would like him back, because out of all the possible managers that have been mentioned he would be the man that i would feel the highs and lows with him because we would be on the same wavelength because we are both fans.

[RedSince1964]

I've voted yes but in my heart of hearts I accept it may not be for the best. So many divisions, so much baggage. But ultimately I trust him, I rate him and ideally I want him running my football team. Under Rafa I felt we could beat anyone in Europe, and we often did. I want those days back.

Amen to that Shaggy,

He should never have to been forced out in the first place regardless the poor season of last year , ok, i'm just as bitterly disapointed as the next man at that performance shown by all players and team selection which some times fustrated the hell out of me but hell, one (yes one) bad season out of six years under Rafa's rein did we fail to challenge and compete in the top four and ultimutly win one and reach one final and reach two semi finals of the Champions League and to add a couple of other Trouphys as well says to me personaly, the Board room made a total cock up which resulted in the Club being in the situation it is now in.

As soon as roy go's the better we will be but, roy can take those usless fookin signings with him as they are a weight around the Clubs neck as far as i'm concerned.

Rant over and waiting for the backlash to begin

[Qantaga]

Amen to that Shaggy,

He should never have to been forced out in the first place regardless the poor season of last year , ok, i'm just as bitterly disapointed as the next man at that performance shown by all players and team selection which some times fustrated the hell out of me but hell, one (yes one) bad season out of six years under Rafa's rein did we fail to challenge and compete in the top four and ultimutly win one and reach one final and reach two semi finals of the Champions League and to add a couple of other Trouphys as well says to me personaly, the Board room made a total cock up which resulted in the Club being in the situation it is now in.

As soon as roy go's the better we will be but, roy can take those usless fookin signings with him as they are a weight around the Clubs neck as far as i'm concerned.

Rant over and waiting for the backlash to begin

I tend to agree but you fail to point out that the few times we have played good football under Hodgson is as good as the best we played under Benitez