Do you want Rafa back?

[Fredo]

Avoidance is bliss.

[murder_inc]

Em Hector Cuper by gettin them to the champs league finals 99/00 2 years on the trot, thats why

Rafa took it up a notch for sure but Cuper got the ball rolling and Rafa inherited one of the best squad in the world.

Thats bull****. Mourinho inherited a good Chav team (plus added a couple more players) that were Runners up and made them champions two years on the trot. Is he or is he not a top class manager?
And that best squad in the world your talking about couldnt win the league with Cuper, who I have a huge amount of respect for by the way. What does that say about Rafa?

[danperkins]

Getting to two European Cup finals makes someone one of europe's genuine big clubs???

Valencia have done **** all throughout the course of time, on the european stage. Sweet FA, relatively speaking. 2 major european trophies in their entire history. Only 6 league titles.

They're ****ing tadpoles, compared to us and Inter.

Who said anything about "Europes Genuine Big Clubs"??

At the time Rafa joined Valencia were a big club, i said "Rafa has been at 3 big clubs" , those were my words. Lets not try and change them.

I never stated in any way shape or form that Valencia were bigger than Inter or Liverpool in general, i said that at the time Rafa joined Valencia we're considered a big club.

dude your just talking yourself into a corner, i know you hate to be wrong but my post and your post is there for all to see and now your backtracking and blowing a small comments into a thread sucking argument, not for the first time eh

[danperkins]

Thats bull****. Mourinho inherited a good Chav team (plus added a couple more players) that were Runners up and made them champions two years on the trot. Is he or is he not a top class manager?
And that best squad in the world your talking about couldnt win the league with Cuper, who I have a huge amount of respect for by the way. What does that say about Rafa?

Who said best squad in the world? I said one of. And where am i saying that Rafa didn't do a great job at Valencia?

Probably best to read my posts instead of looking for something that is not there

[Craig_H]

Thats bull****.

You've just posted a valid reply to every one of dane's posts, in one go.

Takes some doing

[Leyton388]

Hodgkins getting a bit tetchy again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...l/9314043.stm?

HAHA **** him Seeing him in the LFC gear is shocking. He's a right beaut. Would be funny as **** if the kop chant Rafa's name at the next home game or if rafa got a ticket for the kop the place would go mental.

[Craig_H]

Who said anything about "Europes Genuine Big Clubs"??

At the time Rafa joined Valencia were a big club, i said "Rafa has been at 3 big clubs" , those were my words. Lets not try and change them.

I never stated in any way shape or form that Valencia were bigger than Inter or Liverpool in general, i said that at the time Rafa joined Valencia we're considered a big club.

dude your just talking yourself into a corner, i know you hate to be wrong but my post and your post is there for all to see and now your backtracking and blowing a small comments into a thread sucking argument, not for the first time eh

Are chelsea a bigger club than Liverpool dan?

[murder_inc]

Who said best squad in the world? I said one of. And where am i saying that Rafa didn't do a great job at Valencia?

Probably best to read my posts instead of looking for something that is not there

ffs, one of the best squads in the world then.
Cuper couldnt win the title with them. Rafa did. That is what I am saying.
Im not doubting you believe rafa did a terrible job there but you make it sound that what Rafa did was really the work of Cuper. Thats how I read it anyway. Not after an argument mate, just pointing something out.

[Imy]

I never said they were - but they hold their own and can comfortably sit on a list of the biggest clubs in football, along with the likes of us, Milan, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern etc.

Valencia are still in ****ing nappies.

Yeah i know, i don't really like Inter (closet Milan follower )

[The Erectile Banana]

you *******s keep closing my threads, you'll have to close all the other legitimate threads too. I'm listening to the clash now, you jerks. got it?

if you're so convinced you're right, why not let people have a voice?

spanish weeks in a disco casino, mother****ers.

Go Dave.

[The Erectile Banana]

Yeah i know, i don't really like Inter (closet Milan follower )

I've a mate who's a massive Milan fan but who also has a fervent man crush on Javier Zanetti.

I've never understood him.

[danperkins]

So for the last 5 years, you've been going around crowing that Chelsea are a bigger club than Liverpool FC? Because that is what following your insane logic would lead one to do. Except, Chelsea have NEVER been anywhere near as big as Liverpool and probably never will be. The gap is a chasm.

Yet by your logic, they are a bigger club than us. Utter 'boulder dash', as you would laughably say. You're such a new-age sky-gen fan, it's untrue. You base the criteria for a big club on who's most recently won a cup - or in Valencia's case, got to a final Christ.

Who said that? And no i wouldn't say Chelsea are a bigger club than Liverpool, nor did i suggest that Valencia or Inter were, but does that mean that Chelsea are not a big club? So your saying you wouldn' t call Chelsea a big club?

Craigy who said anything about anyone being bigger than anyone? WTF are you talking about ?? I said '3 big clubs',here's my post:

Originally Posted by danperkins
Rafa been at 3 big clubs, rafa falls out at 3 big clubs, anyone see a bit of a pattern here. To quote Tomkins "megalomaniac". Not a hope of Rafa being happy with just partial control of transfers. Rafa's way or no way.

You were the one who magically pulled this piece of genius out of nowhere to suit some argument thats not there, so what the hell are you on about :

Rafa at three big clubs (not sure Valencia are in the same ballpark as LFC or Inter, but i'll humour you)

Not in comparison with LFC and Internazionale, they most certainly arent.

You compared them not me!!!! Do you just want an argument maybe , would that be on the money? This is priceless stuff

[Craig_H]

In the context of Inter and Liverpool (which is the context you mentioned them in) Valencia are not a big club, and for that matter, neither are Chelsea.

[Tee]

LMFAO at "avoidance is bliss"

[danperkins]

In the context of Inter and Liverpool (which is the context you mentioned them in) Valencia are not a big club, and for that matter, neither are Chelsea.

they were a big club at the time, i didn't compare them to Liverpool, Inter or anyone for that matter merely stated the obvious which was Valencia were consider a top club with top players about the time Rafa took over.

You'd swear certain people try to pick arguments with my username on purpose on something, maybe i'm just being paranoid