Do you want Rafa back?

[Craig_H]

Rafa been at 3 big clubs, rafa falls out at 3 big clubs, anyone see a bit of a pattern here. To quote Tomkins "megalomaniac". Not a hope of Rafa being happy with just partial control of transfers. Rafa's way or no way.

Rafa at three big clubs (not sure Valencia are in the same ballpark as LFC or Inter, but i'll humour you)...

Rafa doesnt get properly backed at three 'big' clubs.

Yes, i do see a pattern.

[little dave hedgehog]

Loved that first bit, where he bites straight back "what rumours are they?" As if he doesnt know.

"If he was the right man for the job, it would've been wiser not to let him go" - well yes, it would also have been wiser not to have saddled the club with ****loads of debt that it couldnt afford to sustain - but that's the old owners for you Roy - the ones who hired you - the ones who arent here anymore.

"When you're at one of the top clubs in the country, it would be very strange if there werent other people linked with your job" Others only get linked with your job if you're doing a **** job, Royston. And you are.

these.


echoes of the days of '39, craigy babes.

[danperkins]

Rafa at three big clubs (not sure Valencia are in the same ballpark as LFC or Inter, but i'll humour you)...

Rafa doesnt get properly backed at three 'big' clubs.

Yes, i do see a pattern.

You'll humour me alright Mr. U turn. Don't change your mind now Craig

So are Valencia not a big club Craig?

[Shaggy]

Rafa at three big clubs (not sure Valencia are in the same ballpark as LFC or Inter, but i'll humour you)...

Rafa doesnt get properly backed at three 'big' clubs.

Yes, i do see a pattern.

It's pretty simple.

• Valencia buy him a lampshade
• LFC, well we all know about that
• Inter buy no-one

There's your pattern alright.

Every top manager is the same. I see Mourinho is kicking off at Madrid over a few things he's unhappy about. He did it at Chelsea too. So what, that's what top managers do when they get ****ed around by idiotic owners.

[RichC]

Loved that first bit, where he bites straight back "what rumours are they?" As if he doesnt know.

"If he was the right man for the job, it would've been wiser not to let him go" - well yes, it would also have been wiser not to have saddled the club with ****loads of debt that it couldnt afford to sustain - but that's the old owners for you Roy - the ones who hired you - the ones who arent here anymore.

"When you're at one of the top clubs in the country, it would be very strange if there werent other people linked with your job" Others only get linked with your job if you're doing a **** job, Royston. And you are.

Amazing the amount of **** this bloke comes out with - honestly the amount of people that get linked to manage Arsenal and Manure since the Premiership started is frightening - oh wait there they've done decent jobs hence nobody gets linked to their jobs and talks about them being sacked!!

A constant drivel of trying to justify his position at the club and how the results aren't really that bad!

[murder_inc]

You'll humour me alright Mr. U turn. Don't change your mind now Craig

So are Valencia not a big club Craig?

To be honest they werent mate, not until Rafa turned them into La Liga champs. They were decent, bit like spurs or a villa but not BIG.
Chelsea werent a big club until Roman through his rubels into the mix and bought, I mean, won the title.

[Craig_H]

You'll humour me alright Mr. U turn. Don't change your mind now Craig

So are Valencia not a big club Craig?

Not in comparison with LFC and Internazionale, they most certainly arent.

Do you think Valencia are one of europe's biggest clubs? They're ****ing small fry in comparison.

Never won the CL, won the Uefa Cup once and the Cup Winners Cup once. Before the 21st century, they were no-marks at that level.

[murder_inc]

Not in comparison with LFC and Internazionale, they most certainly arent.

Do you think Valencia are one of europe's biggest clubs? They're ****ing small fry in comparison.

Never won the CL, won the Uefa Cup once and the Cup Winners Cup once. Before the 21st century, they were no-marks at that level.

And who changed them into a bigger club?
~Oh yeah, that gob****e who looks like a fat spanish waiter with a dodgey beard. Wouldnt want him knowere near our club, specially since we got the Royster.

[danperkins]

Not in comparison with LFC and Internazionale, they most certainly arent.

Do you think Valencia are one of europe's biggest clubs? They're ****ing small fry in comparison.

Hmmmm let me think Craigy pie, Rafa joins Valencia in 2001, 2 previous years Valencia have reached the final in the biggest club competition in the world 99/00, desperately unlucky the second time.

So how where Inter doing around then? What about Liverpool, sure we only start winning things in 2001 when we had great season under Houllier, and we were nowhere near Champs League.

So at that time Valencia "were" one of the biggest clubs in the world smarty pants. Unless getting to 2 champs league finals in succession is a fluke eh Craig?

[Craig_H]

Hmmmm let me think Craigy pie, Rafa joins Valencia in 2001, 2 previous years Valencia have reached the final in the biggest club competition in the world 99/00, desperately unlucky the second time.

So how where Inter doing around then? What about Liverpool, sure we only start winning things in 2001 when we had great season under Houllier, and we were nowhere near Champs League.

So at that time Valencia "were" one of the biggest clubs in the world smarty pants. Unless getting to 2 champs league finals in succession is a fluke eh Craig?

Valencia are nowhere near as big a club as Inter or Liverpool, they never have been and probably never will be.

[danperkins]

And who changed them into a bigger club?
~Oh yeah, that gob****e who looks like a fat spanish waiter with a dodgey beard. Wouldnt want him knowere near our club, specially since we got the Royster.

Em Hector Cuper by gettin them to the champs league finals 99/00 2 years on the trot, thats why

Rafa took it up a notch for sure but Cuper got the ball rolling and Rafa inherited one of the best squad in the world.

[Imy]

Valencia are nowhere near as big a club as Inter or Liverpool, they never have been and probably never will be.

Inter are no way as big as Liverpool

[Craig_H]

Em Hector Cuper by gettin them to the champs league finals 99/00 2 years on the trot, thats why

Rafa took it up a notch for sure but Cuper got the ball rolling and Rafa inherited one of the best squad in the world.

Getting to two European Cup finals makes someone one of europe's genuine big clubs???

Valencia have done **** all throughout the course of time, on the european stage. Sweet FA, relatively speaking. 2 major european trophies in their entire history. Only 6 league titles.

They're ****ing tadpoles, compared to us and Inter.

Inter are no way as big as Liverpool

I never said they were - but they hold their own and can comfortably sit on a list of the biggest clubs in football, along with the likes of us, Milan, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern etc.

Valencia are still in ****ing nappies.

[danperkins]

Valencia are nowhere near as big a club as Inter or Liverpool, they never have been and probably never will be.

avoidance is bliss.

At the time Rafa joined them they were a very big club and we're doing more things in Europe than Inter or Liverpool FC. "I never stated that they were a bigger club in general than Inter or Liverpool" but at the time Rafa joined they 2 been in 2 champs league finals, so what does that make them at that time, lucky?

I love the way your avoiding previous post and twisting it around. you hate to be wrong its very funny

[Craig_H]

avoidance is bliss.

At the time Rafa joined them they were a very big club and we're doing more things in Europe than Inter or Liverpool FC. "I never stated that they were a bigger club in general than Inter or Liverpool" but at the time Rafa joined they 2 been in 2 champs league finals, so what does that make them at that time, lucky?

I love the way your avoiding previous post and twisting it around. you hate to be wrong its very funny

So for the last 5 years, you've been going around crowing that Chelsea are a bigger club than Liverpool FC? Because that is what following your insane logic would lead one to do. Except, Chelsea have NEVER been anywhere near as big as Liverpool and probably never will be. The gap is a chasm.

Yet by your logic, they are a bigger club than us. Utter 'boulder dash', as you would laughably say. You're such a new-age sky-gen fan, it's untrue. You base the criteria for a big club on who's most recently won a cup - or in Valencia's case, got to a final Christ.