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    #16
    Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
    Scandalous if true IMO, that means I can't enjoy following Liverpool until next season at the earliest. Rather have a caretaker, if only for the fans.


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      #17
      All the French newspapers have this story, but the only quote from Deschamps - second hand - is that he wants to stay at Marseilles for the long term. he sees himself managing there in 2014.

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        #18
        Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
        Scandalous if true IMO, that means I can't enjoy following Liverpool until next season at the earliest. Rather have a caretaker, if only for the fans.
        It was always on the cards really when we pulled away from the relegation zone. I can live with it if it means getting someone potentially for the long term like Deschamps in the summer. As has been said, the season is a write off anyway.
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          #19
          Originally posted by wavydavy View Post
          Trivia question: Deschamps pips our own SG to what football record?
          Er, dunno. Go on.
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            #20
            Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
            Scandalous if true IMO, that means I can't enjoy following Liverpool until next season at the earliest. Rather have a caretaker, if only for the fans.


            To write off a season would show a big weakness and make it almost impossible to sign quality players in the summer.

            If NESV do that then they can **** off. Totally unacceptable. Every game counts. Every point counts. Every goal counts.
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              #21
              I'm sure I read something about Deschamps signing a new contract in June?
              by the looks of what Arn posted he plays very similar football to what Rafa did, now im not 100% with bringing Rafa back, however I dont see the point in paying a club compensation for a manager that would play similar football to one we can get for free and already has a knowledge of the club and the players.

              IMO the long term solution isn't Rafa (although I would take him back tomorrow over Roy) but getting another manager who is no better just for the sake of having a new manager isn't the way forward.
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                #22
                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                It was always on the cards really when we pulled away from the relegation zone. I can live with it if it means getting someone potentially for the long term like Deschamps in the summer. As has been said, the season is a write off anyway.
                I can't live with that tbh, unacceptable and too risky, he will very likely alienate the players as well.
                * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                  It was always on the cards really when we pulled away from the relegation zone. I can live with it if it means getting someone potentially for the long term like Deschamps in the summer. As has been said, the season is a write off anyway.
                  I fear you are right but I do think there is time for harm to be done by Roy. A second poor league finish will make it harder to both recruit and retain players. The league is weak and I see no reason that we shouldn't at least be pushing for a position in the top 4/5.
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Arn View Post


                    To write off a season would show a big weakness and make it almost impossible to sign quality players in the summer.

                    If NESV do that then they can **** off. Totally unacceptable. Every game counts. Every point counts. Every goal counts.
                    There is nothing we can realistically achieve this season that will make us more attractive to players with a caretaker in charge IMO. Out attraction will be based On reputation, new manager and who we keep/sign in the summer.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Gibbo9 View Post
                      I'm sure I read something about Deschamps signing a new contract in June?
                      by the looks of what Arn posted he plays very similar football to what Rafa did, now im not 100% with bringing Rafa back, however I dont see the point in paying a club compensation for a manager that would play similar football to one we can get for free and already has a knowledge of the club and the players.

                      IMO the long term solution isn't Rafa (although I would take him back tomorrow over Roy) but getting another manager who is no better just for the sake of having a new manager isn't the way forward.
                      What if Rafa's problem wasn't tactics but other factors?

                      I though his tactics were usually spot on.
                      Oh I don't know.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Gibbo9 View Post
                        I'm sure I read something about Deschamps signing a new contract in June?
                        by the looks of what Arn posted he plays very similar football to what Rafa did, now im not 100% with bringing Rafa back, however I dont see the point in paying a club compensation for a manager that would play similar football to one we can get for free and already has a knowledge of the club and the players.

                        IMO the long term solution isn't Rafa (although I would take him back tomorrow over Roy) but getting another manager who is no better just for the sake of having a new manager isn't the way forward.
                        Rafa and Deschamps play similar type of systems. I think the problem is that Gerrard and Carra still play for us. That makes it easier to sign up Deschamps instead of Rafa.

                        Sign up Deschamps then Carra and Gerrard would most probably not protest about it to much. Sign up Rafa and you never know what they would do.
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by dww View Post
                          I fear you are right but I do think there is time for harm to be done by Roy. A second poor league finish will make it harder to both recruit and retain players. The league is weak and I see no reason that we shouldn't at least be pushing for a position in the top 4/5.
                          But it possible that the disruption of bringing on yet another manger and coaches could make things even worse. Although that seems a remote possibility, there's probably not much to gain and it may well involve more expense.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                            There is nothing we can realistically achieve this season that will make us more attractive to players with a caretaker in charge IMO. Out attraction will be based On reputation, new manager and who we keep/sign in the summer.
                            We can still finish in the top four if we get another manager in NOW. That makes a lot of difference. Top four isn't out of the question, it is still a very realistic target if we get in a better manager than Roy.

                            What would players like Torres and Reina say if we keep Roy and more or less don't give a **** about this season.

                            Not a chance that Torres will stay, maybe Reina but no chance that Torres would stay another season.

                            To show winning ambition from the start is the key for NESV if they want to show that they are here to win and not just talk talk talk. If they don't do that then players will see us a club without winning ambition.
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Gibbo9 View Post
                              I'm sure I read something about Deschamps signing a new contract in June?
                              by the looks of what Arn posted he plays very similar football to what Rafa did, now im not 100% with bringing Rafa back, however I dont see the point in paying a club compensation for a manager that would play similar football to one we can get for free and already has a knowledge of the club and the players.

                              IMO the long term solution isn't Rafa (although I would take him back tomorrow over Roy) but getting another manager who is no better just for the sake of having a new manager isn't the way forward.
                              Well easy to see the appeal. Deschamps is a manager who's career is on an upwards trajectory while Rafa's, for reasons that have been well covered here, appears to be heading in the opposite direction.
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Arn View Post
                                We can still finish in the top four if we get another manager in NOW. That makes a lot of difference. Top four isn't out of the question, it is still a very realistic target if we get in a better manager than Roy.

                                What would players like Torres and Reina say if we keep Roy and more or less don't give a **** about this season.

                                Not a chance that Torres will stay, maybe Reina but no chance that Torres would stay another season.

                                To show winning ambition from the start is the key for NESV if they want to show that they are here to win and not just talk talk talk. If they don't do that then players will see us a club without winning ambition.
                                I think this is just a sign of impatience. Potentially 4 managers in a year is probably not something that someone running a club would consider sensible or healthy. I understand your point, but there would be little point investing in players for a caretaker manager so 4th probably isn't as realistic as you suggest. It would take time for a caretaker to get his methods across and it's possible that this could actually unsettle players more.
                                Last edited by Kenneth; 26-12-10, 03:47 PM.
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