The Owners

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[Exiled_red]

I think they need time to get to grips with the game and the club, I'm not sure that the people involved in the takeover and perhaps involved now (Purslow) are the right people to educate them. Which is worrying, I'm hoping that King Kenny is the one advising them, but I suspect if they were listening to him Roy would be gone.

I would be prepared to give the owners time, but I'm worried about what will happen to the squad in the summer if we allow the current situation to continue longer. I fear that key players will leave pushing us back years

[Rich]

I believe NESV realise that the summer is when they can get the long term bloke they want as manager and that they were happy to accept this season as a write-off, unfortunately Hodgson cannot even guarantee a mid-table finish so IMO we're approaching the point when the owners will hit the panic button. The issue is who will take charge of the team? And what implications will this have longer term?

Imagine a scenario where Kenny is drafted in as caretaker and suddenly we charge up the league and do very well, come the summer he steps aside and the new bloke takes over. We have a few months of problems on the pitch and then what? No doubt the worry is that the crowd will call for Kenny again... but we're getting nowhere now as it's short termism at its worst.

[fred_plasticine]

Do you not find it worrying that NESV said they would listen to fans time after time?

there's a difference between listening and doing as you're told.

Do you not find it worrying that 98/99% of fans want Hodgson gone, not knee jerk, simply because he is an embarrasment in both footballing and off the field terms yet NESV have not acted?

again, if there is no suitable candidate out there atm then what you're gonna do? out of the frying pan and into the fire? although i suppose roy's the fire already...

Do you not find it worrying that currently the facts point to NESV are accepting the lies that point to Rafa leaving us in a mess?

i don't think the facts point to that, no. i think they are lucky enough not to have a romanticised or hostile attitude towards rafa. they're objective enough to draw the right conclusions.

Do you not find it worrying that NESV could give the whole club, fans and probably 95% of the playing squad a huge boost by sacking him yet they wont?

well, i do.

Do you no find it worrying that our last manager was sacked for a far better on the field performance in clearly his worst season yet NESV seem to be contect with Hodgson?

the sacking of rafa was based on some good reasons imo. whoever, even if he was removed to hastily it had nothing to do with them. they might have done the same, they might have given him one more season.

Do you not find it worrying that the longer the old fraud is manager the club is sliding slowly deeper and deeper away from where we want to be therfore making the loss of better players more lilkely, NESV seem not to be able to see this?

they wouldn't have succeeded in baseball if they were this blind.

So yes, all in all, I am very worried by their apprant lack of action. Now of course they could sack him this afternoon and I can have a great New Years Eve.

i'm worried too, mate. guess everyone is.

[dww]

Unjustified.

I'll **** myself if Roy's still here by the end of January, until then there's no way of knowing the owners aren't just being considered and working behind closed doors as they well should be.

[Tee]

With every passing day Roy is still in charge my faith in the owners diminishes. It really is that simple for me right now. They are proving they know eff-all about this sport and right now we cannot afford them the time to learn.

[kris90210]

Agree with everything Neil has said on this topic. It's totally harsh. They should not be judged until September 1st.

[kris90210]

With every passing day Roy is still in charge my faith in the owners diminishes. It really is that simple for me right now. They are proving they know eff-all about this sport and right now we cannot afford them the time to learn.

And yet the majority of fans on here can appreciate their dilemma. In a perfect world we would have sacked Roy months ago and NESV's first choice replacement would have been available to step in.

But who is available? Rafa now, but lets be fair, it's understandable that they wouldn't want to take a gamble on him. Who else?

Would you rather see us appoint a sub-standard manager now, or wait until the Summer when we can go for someone far better?

On the caretaker front, there are lots of rumours that Dalglish doesn't want that job anymore. So who then?

[malg]

They've not even had a transfer window yet.

Agree but what they still have is bodgeson. What's the point of a transfer window with that cock still in charge. Losing confidence in the yanks, but then again I never had much to start with.

[Tezza1974]

Do you not find it worrying that NESV said they would listen to fans time after time?

Do you not find it worrying that 98/99% of fans want Hodgson gone, not knee jerk, simply because he is an embarrasment in both footballing and off the field terms yet NESV have not acted?

Do you not find it worrying that currently the facts point to NESV are accepting the lies that point to Rafa leaving us in a mess?

Do you not find it worrying that NESV could give the whole club, fans and probably 95% of the playing squad a huge boost by sacking him yet they wont?

Do you no find it worrying that our last manager was sacked for a far better on the field performance in clearly his worst season yet NESV seem to be contect with Hodgson?

Do you not find it worrying that the longer the old fraud is manager the club is sliding slowly deeper and deeper away from where we want to be therfore making the loss of better players more lilkely, NESV seem not to be able to see this?

So yes, all in all, I am very worried by their apprant lack of action. Now of course they could sack him this afternoon and I can have a great New Years Eve.

What I would find worrying iis that after 3 months NESV were bowing to every bit of pressure to do what we want.
I don't believe for a second they would spend 300 million to lead the club to relegation or stop us from attracting players. If they did that they would lose money which is something they won't want to do.
As for accepting the lies about Rafa just because they have not come out and said anything does not mean they believe it. Also they did not sack him.
And do you really think they are content with hodgson???? Just because they have not sacked him w( hich I would love to happen now). They know the fans wnat him gone the phone in was proof enough but as they said then the decision will not be rushed. They are conducting everything behind closed doors. which is good for the club. Nobody knows whether they have someone lined up to take over or the terms of roys contract. Roy took the job knowing that new owners would probably want to replace him so he will probably have huge pay off clauses if sacked early on.
We will just have to give them a bit of time and if it is until the end of the season then thats the way it has to be.
Bringing back kenny may not be the answer either his stints at celtic and newcastle were not great and if results did not improve would we be asking to have him kicked out of the club he loves?

[Danoner Forrest]

I am strugging to understand the replies to my post, arguing against what I have said?

The main point I see is that everyone wants Roy sacked yet NESV havent done it, that is what I am worried about, how much worse do things have to get before they do it?

As for a replacement, I happen to think that anyone (OK bar Allardyce) could do a better job than this clown. The squad we have with a even half decent manager should be 5th or 6th at least.

[DannyMan2006]

Well by keeping Hodgson they are in effect writing this season off. As for can't get someone to takeover - rubbish. Money talks. Compensate manager and club well enough and you can have pretty much whoever you want.

Even if you're doing it on a budget, there are plenty of out of work managers who love a go at managing LFC. 500k bonus for Europa place, 500k for a trophy and 1 million for a top 4. They'd eat that up.

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However, I think it should be clear to people today that if he's still in charge for Bolton he'll be here for the rest of the season. And then who is to say he won't be in charge next season?

I think people are placing too much faith on NESV to get things right at this early stage. To me they appear clueless and don't look like they particularly care atm. I think they've already cut their losses on a couple of early seasons as I think they see a rebuilding job as a long term process.

Long term we will come good. Short term, forget it.

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NESV is an inert point at the moment for me.

Camolli was not the best appointment and in the time they have been in the owners seat they have not listened as they said they would...

[dww]

NESV is an inert point at the moment for me.

Camolli was not the best appointment and in the time they have been in the owners seat they have not listened as they said they would...

Why do you think Comolli was not the best appointment?

I also think they clearly have listened. They just might not have drawn the same conclusions as fans from the information they provided.

I'm of the opinion that we have now reached a crisis point and they probably do have to act but I can see why they might have thought that a season of relative stability under Roy while they got the house in order behind the scenes might have been the best option until now.

[DannyMan2006]

Dave, at which pint in the season have we had stability? What they have accepted is that this season is a complete write off. I think the best we can hope for now is midtable safety.