The Owners

[dww]

Not answering for Icon but I share his doubts/concerns about the Comolli appointment. It's the elephant in the room in a way and for fans it totally muddies the waters regarding our future with NESV. His past success rate is debatable, the concept of a Director of Football is unproven in a league where the manager as overall boss is the way to win leagues.

I have to say I think in the long run Comolli has generally been seen to have a good record with buys. His problem seems to have been wanting more control and failing to balance a managers short term and his long term aims.

WRT the point about the DoF position I do wonder how much of this is a self fulfilling prophecy. British managers haven't been used to having one so it hasn't worked, a lot of continental coaches have come here understanding that they wouldn't have one.

Chelsea seem to have done okay with Arnesen and Grant in that role. Nottingham forest have improved since they instigated their 'transfer panel'. I think sometimes people are just resistant to change.

Obviously the quality and qualities of the DoF are key. No idea how well suited Comolli will prove to be.

I am glad that there is no publicity surrounding NESV's view of Hodgson and that whatever they are doing they are doing quietly. Their one public act worries me at the same time. Very tough position for them to be in and I'm not sure a "Billy Big Bollox" knee-jerk approacj like Arn is suggesting is what they will do. Equally, they surely can't leave Hodgson in chrage any longer???

I think he will have at least the Bolton game.

[MrMichael]

From RAWK and has been sent to John Henry sums it up pretty well

Dear John,

You said yourself recently that there have been many poor short term decisions taken at this football club in the recent past. This is undoubtedly true and one of them was the appointment of Roy Hodgson as Liverpool manager. In all his 35 years of management there was absolutely no evidence that he had the experience required to manage a club of the stature of Liverpool FC. Despite this, for six months this site has supported him as best we could, as we did not want to exacerbate a problem not of your making. We were happy to trust your judgement, to allow you to get your feet under the desk, to appoint a management team and to make the right decision on the manager when you were ready. We were hoping that in return Roy just might prove capable of limiting the long-term damage to the club during that time.

Unfortunately it is clear from events so far this season culminating in the inept display last night that the consequences of keeping Roy Hodgson in place are now so pressing that immediate and decisive action is required from Fenway. His position at the club is no longer tenable. He appears to have lost the ability to motivate the team, a team of internationals and World Cup winners, and he has certainly lost the backing of the Anfield crowd with 40,000 openly showing their derision at his inept tactics.

The bond between Liverpool fans and their managers is strong, stronger than at any club in the world, and in normal circumstances it would be unthinkable to see the crowd turn on the manager as they did last night. If there was ever any coming back from that for Mr. Hodgson he closed that door himself in his post-match interview when he criticised the support of those same fans. Sorry, but those fans will be standing on the Kop supporting this team long after Roy Hodgson has gone and they were supporting their club in the only way they know how, defending it from a man who is corroding it from the inside.

We wholeheartedly agree with your strategy of concentrating on what is in the best long-term interests of Liverpool FC, even if it is at the expense of short-term popularity. We now believe however that we have reached a tipping point and that Roy Hodgson's continued presence in the dugout is now detrimental to the long-term future of the club as well as our immediate future this league season.

Red And White Kop

That's very well worded imo.

[Buzzo]

Obviously no one thought so in the summer, hence I said after the first few games, but after the first few games the calls for his head have been growing, and it's apparent to me that he will not turn things around, no chance IMO.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=70644

I think you'll find some posts in this thread.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=70866

And this one.

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=71085

And this poll early october gives an indication.

Looking at only the first thread, I had forgotten quite how objectionable a certain poster (no prizes for guessing who) could be.

For me the moment I knew Roy Hodgson was not LFC standard was Man City. I couldn't ever remember us being beaten so easily. He has been a dead man walking for me ever since. If anything the ownership issues, a headline grabbing result against a poor Chelsea, and the fact we aren't in the Champions League to get royally ****ed over by some good European Opposition have helped Roy survive as long as he has. Even the Snow gave him 2 weeks without a game allowing him to survive even longer.

But he has to go now. It is not about the Liverpool way (protecting it or following it), or anything so grand. It is about making the right decision and getting rid of Roy is the right decision.

[alunevans]

the jury is out in my view.

the club is heading into the new year in a relegation fight.

3 points off the bottom 3 and no sign of any improvement.

and the owners are sitting on their hands.

last night was beyond the last straw.

my faith in NESV has took a knock that he's still here now and is said to be in charge on saturday.

if this is their winning mentality then i'm not liking it. they're currently flunking their first big test for me.

[el matador]

if NESV dont act now by removing hodgson immediately then for me they are clueless and equally to blame for the current woes.

It looks like most of the decisions they are taking are off the pitch whereas all fans care about is whats happening on the football field.

Yes the commercial side is important, but i say with confidence that if its not happening on the pitch, it doesnt matter how much money youve got in the bank.

Get your fingers out, remove this idiot and lets start the rebuilding process now. There's no point waiting till july because **** only knows where we'll be then.

[Riche]

The answer is Employ and back Rafa and he will make your dreams come true.

[James P]

The fans isn't stupid.

[little dave hedgehog]

[little dave hedgehog]

although i find it hard to read everything he writes, i do like arn.

english is bad even for a swede though. i always know it's him if the subjects and verbs don't agree.

god bless you arn, you're all right.

[Pablo]

although i find it hard to read everything he writes, i do like arn.

english is bad even for a swede though. i always know it's him if the subjects and verbs don't agree.

god bless you arn, you're all right.

Him are a good lad

[DannyMan2006]

How good are the owners?

Look at the date Cream started the "Pack your bags Roy" thread. Then look at the date now. Then look at the results since then. Then look on the lfc website to see who the manager is.

Then wonder the **** why.

Hodgson has been on the brink for far too long. There failure to act is very worrying.

[Arn]

although i find it hard to read everything he writes, i do like arn.

english is bad even for a swede though. i always know it's him if the subjects and verbs don't agree.

god bless you arn, you're all right.

Is you sure about this?

[Neil Young]

I like you Arn, but you is bonker.

[BillobShaisley]

Do you not find it worrying that NESV said they would listen to fans time after time?

Not worrying at all, listening and actually doing things is different. They are aware of how we feel, but also have to come up with a meaningfull plan do improve the situation. they've continually said they're here long term and will probably wait to get a CEO in place before making a big decision. Even the squirrel wont get us relegated, this season is a write off anyway, so really its not as urgent as many of you are making out.

Do you not find it worrying that 98/99% of fans want Hodgson gone, not knee jerk, simply because he is an embarrasment in both footballing and off the field terms yet NESV have not acted?

95 now 98, its a website poll, but whatever the percentage, its clear Roy isn't here long term, but I don't want Kenny's reputation ruined by being caretaker.


Do you not find it worrying that currently the facts point to NESV are accepting the lies that point to Rafa leaving us in a mess?

You're just getting emotional now.

Do you not find it worrying that NESV could give the whole club, fans and probably 95% of the playing squad a huge boost by sacking him yet they wont?

And do what next? I expect any decent LFC board to do all such future planning in absolute privacy and not release tit bits to keep school kids quiet. You back the manager right up until the moment you sack him.

Do you no find it worrying that our last manager was sacked for a far better on the field performance in clearly his worst season yet NESV seem to be contect with Hodgson?

They are not content. Far from it, what they are at the moment is lumbered.

Do you not find it worrying that the longer the old fraud is manager the club is sliding slowly deeper and deeper away from where we want to be therfore making the loss of better players more lilkely, NESV seem not to be able to see this?

We are far from where we want to be, we are not getting any further, the difference between sacking him today or in a fortnight is negligible and only slightly greater through waiting to the end of the season and making a top appointment. e.g. getting in Coyle or something now rather than a top manager in the summer would be a bad move.

So yes, all in all, I am very worried by their apprant lack of action. Now of course they could sack him this afternoon and I can have a great New Years Eve.

Key word their is apparent, 'for him with an eye let him see'

[souliv]

Where is that from and who is commenting ?