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    #76
    Originally posted by chadrtc View Post
    20 - Steven Gerrard misplaced 20 passes v West Ham, the highest total by any LFC outfielder in a PL game this season. Turnover.

    From Opta Joe on Twitter
    Absolute ****e today from Stevie.........lost count of the number of breaks by West Ham via one of his passes.
    100% fit or not, game completely passed him by..........couldn't even dive properly.
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      #77
      Originally posted by inijjer View Post
      People are saying he had a bad game. I don't see it myself. That 3rd goal was a result of us being 2-1 down with a few minutes to go, committing everyone forwards and leaving 1 v 1 at the back.

      We lost the game in midfield in the first half.
      You need your defenders to be strong, that was a very poor mistake for an experienced defender, and he makes too many of those errors for me. I'm uncomfortable when I watch him because I expect him to make those mistakes, playing regularly he his a liability. I'd keep him as a back up for now, but we need better first team options.

      I agree with you that we lost the game in midfield, but we had a chance to snatch a point at 2-1 the poor defending took that chance away from us.
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        #78
        Originally posted by el matador View Post
        i think the 3 centre backs compensates for a few failings in our squad.

        skrtel is a disaster waiting to happen and will give at least one chance away per game. carras legs have gone and he cant play in a centre back pairing. our best centre back is agger and he cannot be relied on.

        we dont have a wide player worthy of the name so having 2 wingbacks offers some width.

        neither two of lucas meireles and gerrard is good enough to dominate any game.

        given we have serious problems at centre back, centre midfield and out wide the 352 seems to be the best option by offering 3 centre backs, 3 midfield players and 2 wingbacks.

        unfortunately today west ham showed the way to play against us. when our defenders have the ball press them and man to man mark our central midfield. our only option left is the long ball and centrebacks arent gonna lose headers against suarez or kuyt.

        west ham win the second balls and dominate the game. they win the midfield battle.

        with no bite in midfield they played through us everytime. andy carroll will make a difference but no idea when he's gonna make an appearance.

        i think thats the best
        Good post
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          #79
          we would do better with more/better black players
          dave of mutilation

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            #80
            "no satellite signal is being received",,,,thank fkuc for that .
            Roger Waters . Rocker and Poet ,thanks man .

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              #81
              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
              Lucas wasn't the best today, but he was still our best midfielder.
              Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
              that sadly is true as well, I thought Lucas was pretty poor but the best of a bad bunch


              What worries me is that both Gerrard and Meireles aren't normal central midfielders. Gerrard vacates the midfield too often leaving us vulnerable. Meireles I still remain unconvinced by; IMO his goals have papered over the cracks of other areas of his game. Lucas has had alot of responsibility for holding the midfield together, and still comes in for alot of unfair critisism IMO
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                #82
                Originally posted by el matador View Post
                i think the 3 centre backs compensates for a few failings in our squad.

                skrtel is a disaster waiting to happen and will give at least one chance away per game. carras legs have gone and he cant play in a centre back pairing. our best centre back is agger and he cannot be relied on.
                Don't forget we do have young Ayala - who did impress early on in pre season. I'd like to see him get a chance when he's recovered from injury.

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                  #83
                  Meireles needs to be kept as far away from the midfield battle as physically possible. His strengths are his energy,runs and shooting. Play to his strengths and keep him away from the rough and tumble of the CM battle in which he clearly is not cut out for.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Mattimetal View Post
                    Don't forget we do have young Ayala - who did impress early on in pre season. I'd like to see him get a chance when he's recovered from injury.
                    IMO Ayala will never make it at LFC. I think we need to nail down this position, as well as LB & LM. These positions have been filled by too many stop gap players over recent years.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                      Find me my post attacking Johnson mate

                      I said he was a crap defender in which he is and i think most LFc fans will agree, and also said i'd like to see him played further forward, which most LIverpool fans will also agree. Make sure you have the right username before you post pal
                      Must just be me getting you and Rudo confused as the same person, must be the Wumery.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                        Lucas is our only mid who can hold, that is his role, break up attacks and play it out keeping the ball. He does that well. The vast majority of his passes are forward. If we have all 3 cm's charging forward we will have a problem.
                        He is the only "first team" midfielder who can hold but hes not that great at it either

                        I have argued for weeks we need a dedicated specialised holding player in addition to a midfield playmaker

                        Now we have been linked with Adam and I can see him filling the playmaker role but defensively hes no better than Lucas
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                          #87
                          Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                          Meireles needs to be kept as far away from the midfield battle as physically possible. His strengths are his energy,runs and shooting. Play to his strengths and keep him away from the rough and tumble of the CM battle in which he clearly is not cut out for.
                          Tackling and physical challenges are not his strengths but if he wants to stay regular he'll need to improve that aspect of his game in a hurry.
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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                            He is the only "first team" midfielder who can hold but hes not that great at it either

                            I have argued for weeks we need a dedicated specialised holding player in addition to a midfield playmaker

                            Now we have been linked with Adam and I can see him filling the playmaker role but defensively hes no better than Lucas
                            I think he is considerably worse defensively.

                            I think Lucas has done very well as a holding mid personally. He is also doing the role very well for Brazil. He is really not our problem.
                            He is not as good at holding as Mascherano, but very few are, he is still very good at the role though and is massively unvalued by so many.
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                              #89
                              Lucas needs to be more assertive. The stats do back him up but, if you actually watch him play, his style of football leaves you in a nervous disposition. He hasnt exactly got the most confident aura about him.

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                                He is the only "first team" midfielder who can hold but hes not that great at it either

                                I have argued for weeks we need a dedicated specialised holding player in addition to a midfield playmaker

                                Now we have been linked with Adam and I can see him filling the playmaker role but defensively hes no better than Lucas
                                watching Parker today I'd be tempted with him!

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