Liverpool vs Man Utd Post Match gloating

[Vermilion]

What's a 50p head?

Also I think that KK will highlight Manure's media blackout in a witty manner and take the spotlight off Carragher.

A head that's bad for heading a ball, it's the corners that do it, not the corners from the corner, but the corners of the 50p piece.

[Fosterbloke]

hahaha I like that (50p head)!

[Neil Young]

The Wolves - Spurs game straight afterwards being a prime example. I really do think the referees have it in for Wolves/Mick McCarthy.

I do sort of agree with Arn though that the FA/FIFA/UEFA should look at whether a referee can be allowed to look at the video of violent incidents after the game. Clamping down on those tackles has been a big improvement in the game IMO and continuing the movement in that direction would seem sensible.

I agree that would be a good idea even though - shock, horror; Arn, look away now - it wouldn't be perfect, as Clattenburg's failure to sanction Rooney on review shows.

The thing is people are criticising Dowd for a judgement call not a cut-and-dried mistake in fact. A yellow card for both was probably too lenient but it wasn't actually wrong and, I repeat, it didn't have a material effect on the outcome.

Happy birthday by the way.

[Drago]

Speaking to a few mancs down town there now. They're absolutely convinced Carra's was a red, Maxi should have been booked and Rafael's was a yellow card tackle born out of frustration cause of the other two. That the usual bollocks about if you played like that every week instead of raising your game against the champions (champions? I said)

Seriously ****ing deluded.

[Arn]

The rule that they can't change a yellow to a red after the game must be scrapped as soon as possible. I think even some referees use it to avoid problems after the game.

Give the player a yellow and it can't be dealt with after the game.

One of the worst rules out there, if not the worst.

[Arn]

Referees aren't perfect, they make mistakes. It is time FIFA/UEFA/FA realize that. They don't see everything and it is very understandable that the pressure will sometime get to them and they won't send off a player.

They are human beings FFS, not robots.

Correct the mistakes after the game and you get a fairer game.

[RedReet]

Carra's tackle was silly, dirty and deliberate. Was lucky to stay on the pitch. Rafael's was filthy and should have gone too imo. End of. But for the Scum to lecture Liverpool on fair play etc. is a joke given Rooney's elbow.

Rooney’s elbow had intent though, as so often his challenges do. He had no intention of going for any ball, just wanted to hurt another player. Regardless of any injuries, that should be much more punishable. Carra’s tackle was bad, but you’re mad if you think he was only interested in injuring Nani and not winning the ball. Poor judgement will almost always result in injury in any contact sport, to clamp down on that would take the competitive edge out of the game.

****ing 50p ed!

That's exactly what I said to my brother's when he flung his header back across the face of the goal the clown!!

Surprised Skrtel has went so long without the same photoshop.

[The_weatherman]

You just know ferguson is stewing at the moment - he'll be raging, he will want to tell the world that carragher should have been sent off and all would have been different And on top of that, what a ****ing cunt for spitting his dummy out and banning the media - jesus ****ing wept fella you are a ****ing KNIGHT! you ****ing whopper, have some ****ing class and diginity instead of throwing the toys out the pram because a few things have gone against you (especially when you have had even bigger things go your way over the last 10 years)

That media blackout is actually coming in handy right now. He would just go on about that tackle and blame the referee and the this and that for our win. Hope he boycots every media until the end of the season. Affects his supporters the most I'd think.

[PTP]

While Dowd was too lenient for both challenges, in the context of the game it was fine. He was consistent for both teams and the two incidents did not lead to any further bad behaviour (partly, perhaps, due to half-time coming so soon afterwards).

So while he made mistakes he never lost control and was fair to both teams. There are dozens of wrong decisions every season that more clearly affect the outcome of matches than the two from yesterday.

i think the referee handled both incidents well - He could have steamed in in a flash, lost his head, and started booking and sending off everyone in both incidents - he didn't he took his time, he let it die down, and he didn't get influenced by either set of players.

Yes he maybe should have sent carragher off, and yes he could have also sent rafael off, but he didn't - he let both off with yellows, and as you point out - after that the game went on with no incident - for arguements sake - had he sent off carragher and Nani stayed on, then for all we know, skrtel might have gone through him and broke his leg, or the ref may have felt it was harsh on Carragher, and then awarded liverpool a soft penalty etc


I think the ref, in the circumstances, did as good as he could of done - and thats not a bias because we battered them anyway and were two nil up when the incidents happened

[Shaggy]

Ferguson obviously doesn't realise that their dummy spitting and blanket silence just makes it even sweeter.

[PTP]

I agree that would be a good idea even though - shock, horror; Arn, look away now - it wouldn't be perfect, as Clattenburg's failure to sanction Rooney on review shows.

The thing is people are criticising Dowd for a judgement call not a cut-and-dried mistake in fact. A yellow card for both was probably too lenient but it wasn't actually wrong and, I repeat, it didn't have a material effect on the outcome.
Happy birthday by the way.

Added to that was also dowds positioning - he see's carra do him yes, fouls happen every game, but he wouldn't have had a clear and good view of the actual impact - so much so that even Evra, at the time, was almost agreeing with gerrard and carragher

[Kenneth]

i think the referee handled both incidents well - He could have steamed in in a flash, lost his head, and started booking and sending off everyone in both incidents - he didn't he took his time, he let it die down, and he didn't get influenced by either set of players.

Yes he maybe should have sent carragher off, and yes he could have also sent rafael off, but he didn't - he let both off with yellows, and as you point out - after that the game went on with no incident - for arguements sake - had he sent off carragher and Nani stayed on, then for all we know, skrtel might have gone through him and broke his leg, or the ref may have felt it was harsh on Carragher, and then awarded liverpool a soft penalty etc


I think the ref, in the circumstances, did as good as he could of done - and thats not a bias because we battered them anyway and were two nil up when the incidents happened

ref did well all round IMO, although he was helped by half time.

Still can't get over Nani crying

[Fredo]

i think the referee handled both incidents well - He could have steamed in in a flash, lost his head, and started booking and sending off everyone in both incidents - he didn't he took his time, he let it die down, and he didn't get influenced by either set of players.

Yes he maybe should have sent carragher off, and yes he could have also sent rafael off, but he didn't - he let both off with yellows, and as you point out - after that the game went on with no incident - for arguements sake - had he sent off carragher and Nani stayed on, then for all we know, skrtel might have gone through him and broke his leg, or the ref may have felt it was harsh on Carragher, and then awarded liverpool a soft penalty etc


I think the ref, in the circumstances, did as good as he could of done - and thats not a bias because we battered them anyway and were two nil up when the incidents happened

I think he was excellent. He would have ruined the match had he given a red card to Carra. Then, he was consistent thereafter and rightly yellow carded Rafael.

[PTP]

Ferguson obviously doesn't realise that their dummy spitting and blanket silence just makes it even sweeter.

- he probably thought - we'll win the game, and then when they want to hear how happy we are, we will ignore them, that'll show em

As i mentioned in the ferguson thread - how funny would it be if the media pitched together, and then had a universal man utd ban for the rest of the season - no-one turning up for Man Utd press conferences, no interviewers queing up outside the changing room after matches etc When ferguson/utd want to speak....the media just blank them

[dom9]

What is Nani's injury btw?

I assume it is a broken leg? Possible amputation?