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Kopites party with tyrkish delight
José, Sir Alex... London press
All choking on sweet success
Money, not love, is your drive
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God read and backs up what a lot of people say about Kuyt being such an intelligent player, not just a 'workhorse'.
I noticed the Lucas tackling stat myself yesterday, that's surely a bit misleading. I thought he broke up play loads of times and made a good few crucial tackles/interceptions, although how accurate these particular types of stats are has been discussed before. Plan on watching the game tonight again, so will keep an eye out.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
God read and backs up what a lot of people say about Kuyt being such an intelligent player, not just a 'workhorse'.
I noticed the Lucas tackling stat myself yesterday, that's surely a bit misleading. I thought he broke up play loads of times and made a good few crucial tackles/interceptions, although how accurate these particular types of stats are has been discussed before. Plan on watching the game tonight again, so will keep an eye out.
I think the thing is that not winning a tackle doesn't mean the opposition keeps the ball or can continue to threaten, it can mean they lose the ball to someone else or are forced into an error, or failing that, that they are turned back to have to start again.
I think the thing is that not winning a tackle doesn't mean the opposition keeps the ball or can continue to threaten, it can mean they lose the ball to someone else or are forced into an error, or failing that, that they are turned back to have to start again.
Aye, it's very ambiguous, and offers little insight on it's own as to what happens on the pitch.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
I think the thing is that not winning a tackle doesn't mean the opposition keeps the ball or can continue to threaten, it can mean they lose the ball to someone else or are forced into an error, or failing that, that they are turned back to have to start again.
As a stat fan I know that for a tackle to be considered won the team need to end up winning the ball, so a player can win the tackle but if the opposition get the ball, for example thanks to a throw in or a corner or 30 yards away then the stats will say that he lost the tackle.
So he could win a tackle but it could be counted as a lost one.
Stop the cyberhate
from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a
Kenny Dalglish demands a winning sequence from Liverpool
Kenny Dalglish, the Liverpool manager, has warned his players that they have to build on their win over Manchester United.
Sunday's 3-1 victory at Anfield was in stark contrast to a defeat by a similar scoreline at West Ham United the previous week.
Dalglish, however, is keen for Liverpool's disappointing campaign not to be defined by results against their oldest foes. "It is three points but it is not the end of the season for us just because we have had a fantastic result against a team leading the table," he said. "If we play like that against any team we would be happy with the performance and it shows you what the players can do and want to do.
"But you can never take away the disappointment of West Ham. We can use that as a reference point."
In the aftermath of the victory Dalglish made a point of praising the team effort despite Dirk Kuyt's hat-trick and Luis Suárez's mesmerising performance grabbing the headlines.
Against United the manager reverted to 4-4-2, having experimented with a number of systems, and they were not even affected by the loss of Fábio Aurélio to injury midway through the first half which prompted a defensive reshuffle.
"You cannot carry anyone in a game against United, everyone has to play," added the manager. "Dirk rightly got the headlines for the hat-trick but Luis put in a fantastic performance. They were fantastic and it did not matter what formation they played, formation was irrelevant."
One key part of his formation in which Dalglish takes extra special interest is the pairing of the strikers Suarez and the £35m record signing Andy Carroll, who made his debut on Sunday as a substitute after two months out with a thigh injury.
"I don't ever make a library of players' performances but I know Luis is a fantastic footballer and is still trying to find his feet here," said the manager. "I am really looking forward to him and Andy forming a fantastic partnership at the club.
"It is a long time since he [Carroll] has played and I am sure he will play a huge role for the club. But we will continue what we have been doing and act responsibly with him."
Kuyt, meanwhile, believes the players have proved they can compete with the Premier League's best teams but accepts they will not be successful without greater consistency. "We want to win every game, we want to go on a run," he said. "The aim for us is consistency. We have shown that we can compete with the best but competing with the best is not enough to win things.
"We have beaten United, we have beaten Chelsea [twice] but we also want to beat the other teams as well. You need to win, with all respect, against the West Hams and the Wolves and the Blackpools.
"Everyone is working really hard every day to go forward and hopefully we can show that West Ham [a 3-1 defeat] last week was a mistake and go on a run of winning games. That will be our motivation for the coming games."
Gerrard did really well holding yesterday (and I've been really critical about that part of his game)
Whether it was actually by design / discipline or his injury prevented him from bombing on more I dont know
But I'll give him the benefit of doubt and commend him
Gerrard was more disciplined yesterday that he normally is with his marauding role. He seemed more aware of the need to keep hold of midfield and the game.
I noticed at one point early in the second half when he was screaming at the defence to move further up filed, nearer the halfway line to compact the game. Kygriakos was resisting obviously afraid of doing so with his lack of pace but Gerrard persisted and got Reina to come out more a sweeper to help Kyrgiakos.
I was really impressed with the leadership and maturity he showed.
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