Martin Skrtel

[Rudo]

Name 5 better CBs than Agger and you cannot say Vidic..

Nothing to do with 'who's better' Agger is injury prone. Fact. He's averaged just over 22/23 games a season for us in the last 4 seasons hence you can't rely on him in the future. It sucks as he is a good player, but that's the reality of the situation.

You can't really rate a player as a result. If say he plays 15-20 games on the trot then you can.

There's no point being in denial.

[Mostar]

he wont be though will he. I really want him to be though.

You are probably right as things will likely not get better but as his average of the last 5 years was 20.4 games, which basically means that we played without him 1/2 of the season.

That said it would be tough to replace the player of his qualities.

2010/11 Statistics
Season Totals 16

2009/10 Statistics
Season Totals 31

2008/09 Statistics
Season Totals 22

2007/08 Statistics
Season Totals 5

2006/07 Statistics
Season Totals 28

[Rudo]

I think Agger has the potential to be world class but it's very frustrating the way he can't stay fit, Aurelio is the same. They both have bags of ability but are highly unreliable.

I think Agger is great beside a no nonsense type CB, IMO his weaknesses would be pace and he sometimes doesnt look very mobile, but probably down to him struggling for fitness constantly. I'd love for Agger to gain some semblance of a consistent run in the side, as he looks better and better much like Aurelio, the more games they play.

Personally i can see both players retiring early. As for CB's better than Agger there are a few IMO but not many when he's at his best:

Terry
Lucio
Caravalho
Kompany
Pique

If Agger could stay fit, and that is a massive and highly unlikely "if", i think he could be better than likes of Kompany(looks outstanding) & Pique & as good as the rest.

P.S. Does anyone honestly think Agger will be fit more often than not next season? I don't.

Terry's **** now imho.

[Rudo]

king is a quality player and also more of an crock than agger

in my opinion agger is our best CB and exactly the type of CB i want at the club.

he just wont play enough. the stats show that. If we dont replace him then it limits us as we cant rely on him and have to have a less than 1st choice cb playing most of the time

now replacing him thats difficult but then comolli and kenny get a lot of money and its not just about easy decisions

couldn't agree more.

[Mostar]

Nothing to do with 'who's better' Agger is injury prone. Fact. He's averaged just over 22/23 games a season for us in the last 4 seasons hence you can't rely on him in the future. It sucks as he is a good player, but that's the reality of the situation.

You can't really rate a player as a result. If say he plays 15-20 games on the trot then you can.

There's no point being in denial.

Don't avoid the question Rudo.

You said and I quote "i don't think he's as world class as everyone makes out" so be the little brave soldier and back your statement.

[CJ]

You are probably right as things will likely not get better but as his average of the last 5 years was 20.4 games, which basically means that he played without him 1/2 of the season.

That said it would be tough to replace the player of his qualities.

2010/11 Statistics
Season Totals 16

2009/10 Statistics
Season Totals 31

2008/09 Statistics
Season Totals 22

2007/08 Statistics
Season Totals 5

2006/07 Statistics
Season Totals 28

its a shame as he is a really good CB and the way he brings the ball out adds so much to our play.

however as difficult as replacing him is we pay a lot of money to people at the club to do that very job. It may be that we can get a young lad with promise in and use him with Agger and let the lad mature?

Am glad its there job rather than mine

[danperkins]

Terry's **** now imho.

I wouldn't say he's **** but he has looked dodgy this season, although he is a grade A cunt he has been outstanding for the last number of years.

[Assassin]

Kelly will be in with a shout for a CB position, especially with the emergence of Flannagan as back up to Johnson

[Rudo]

Don't avoid the question Rudo.

You said and I quote "i don't think he's as world class as everyone makes out" so be the little brave soldier and back your statement.

Yeah, and that doesn't mean i think he's **** btw...just little overrated.

Ok, then:

Kompany
Carragher
Ferdinand
Puyol
Lucio

[Mostar]

I think Agger has the potential to be world class but it's very frustrating the way he can't stay fit, Aurelio is the same. They both have bags of ability but are highly unreliable.

I think Agger is great beside a no nonsense type CB, IMO his weaknesses would be pace and he sometimes doesnt look very mobile, but probably down to him struggling for fitness constantly. I'd love for Agger to gain some semblance of a consistent run in the side, as he looks better and better much like Aurelio, the more games they play.

Personally i can see both players retiring early. As for CB's better than Agger there are a few IMO but not many when he's at his best:

Terry
Lucio
Caravalho
Kompany
Pique

If Agger could stay fit, and that is a massive and highly unlikely "if", i think he could be better than likes of Kompany(looks outstanding) & Pique & as good as the rest.

P.S. Does anyone honestly think Agger will be fit more often than not next season? I don't.

On your list I would say that Pique is in the same league as Agger and Kompany is almost there if he can repeat this year season.

All others are too old and not as good as him but still good shout LDP

[danperkins]

Ball playing CB's are a rare breed. The fact that we have one and a very good one at that and we can't get him fit, is very frustrating.

[Assassin]

"I don't think. He's as world class as everyone makes out"

Piss poor punctuation. He just forgot a fullstop in the sentence

[Rudo]

I wouldn't say he's **** but he has looked dodgy this season, although he is a grade A cunt he has been outstanding for the last number of years.

He's looked dodgy for a few seasons now. At Club level and even more so at International level.

Have to say he was a class defender in the Mourinho era but he's lost that edge to his game. Suffered a lot of injury problems himself and they're possibly taking their toll.

I think he can be very easily exposed.

[DannyMan2006]

There are loads of CB's better than Agger. If he was like Carra on the ball he'd not even get in a top half team tbh. His strength on the ball and weakness in the air let him down.

That's not a massive dig at Agger, as lesser sides look for stronger players at the back in terms of strength. It's just his techique makes him important to a top side.

His excellence on the deck elevates him right up there when paired with a top defender like Carra. Perfect combination really when both were on their games back in 2007.

If Agger was reliable in terms of injury record I would be looking this summer for a strong CB and I wouldn't worry so much about their strengths when in possession. I'd just look for a similar player to Carra, but one obviously younger and with more pace!

But because of Aggers injury record, it puts us in the difficult position of needing one who is both strong and dominant at defending, but also one who is confortable on the ball.

[Craig_H]

Don't avoid the question Rudo.

You said and I quote "i don't think he's as world class as everyone makes out" so be the little brave soldier and back your statement.

What's also brilliant, is that he insists on using the last 4 seasons - but not the last 5. Because if he includes the last 5, he'd have to include a season where Agger played 43 games in one campaign