West Brom vs Liverpool: Match Thread

[Rudo]

Exactly

[little dave hedgehog]

Price. Attraction.

1. I can't think of another footballer in world footballer similar to our Stevie G. He is a different class and not easy to come by.

2. Even if he was available, he'd cost a fortune.

3. Even if he was available, that player would not join a team not in Europe, as every team in world football would want them.

And that is why we have players who specialise in certain positions. Because none of them are good enough to be all rounders.

ok, but that doesn't change what we need.

[DannyMan2006]

I agree with you, but with the current make up of the team, he's a liability and he might be way over the hill by the time we become good again. I like Kuyt but as you said, he's the kind of player you don't mind to have when you've got Gerrard and Torres in their primes. We don't. We've signed a target man who's a good finisher but needs wingers and we've paired him with a second striker who also needs wingers to get space in the middle. Kuyt is obsolete.

I don't mind him staying as a back up striker, but his days in midfield are over.

My main point is that whilst when naming a dream premiership squad we'd keep very little of our side, being realistic we can only **** off so many. With that in mind I wouldn't be looking to sell Dirk.

[DannyMan2006]

ok, but that doesn't change what we need.

I'm always unrealistic about what we can achieve, but I'm always realistic about who we can sign. We need tons of players.

We need a Sami like CB.

We need a Stevie like CM.

We need a Barnes like Winger.

Blah, blah, blah. No offense meant by that, but we really do need a massive splurge to come good next year, something that is not going to happen tbh.

[Neil Young]

He's class when we don't need a goal, and dreadful when we do need a goal.

That's simply wrong. He scored all three against Man United if you remember.

[Gibbo]

Absolutely ****ing disgraceful.

Smint?

[Gibbo]

Its a good job we picked Suarez up when we did IMO, if we would have waited until summer he would have held out for a club in a better position.

[Shaggy]

JimmyRiceWriter Jimmy Rice
Agger knee tendon, Johnson muscle, Gerrard groin. See .tv for more shortly #lfc

[Shaggy]

Kenny Dalglish refused to blame Liverpool's 2-1 defeat to West Brom on their terrible luck with injuries.

The Reds lost Daniel Agger and Glen Johnson in the first half, while they had to do without Steven Gerrard altogether after he suffered an injury setback in training on Friday.

Even so, Martin Skrtel put the visitors in front at the Hawthorns before a pair of Chris Brunt penalties secured all three points for Roy Hodgson's men.

Dalglish said: "It never helps when you've got to make changes after 25 minutes. We started quite well and had a couple of chances early doors. We put two squad players on who are capable of playing. It might have been a little bit disruptive but we should be able to cope with that.

"Both injuries were the same as with Steven yesterday. That happened in training and it was as innocuous as the two lads today. They both did it when they were running. Daniel's is a tendon behind his knee, Glen looks as if he's damaged a muscle.

"Steven was training yesterday and innocuously tried to turn with the ball and felt a sharp pain. Same injury but not the same thing.

"We'll get him assessed and by the end of the week we'll know better about everybody."

The penalties followed fouls by Sotirios Kyrgiakos and Pepe Reina on Peter Odemwingie.

Dalglish said: "The second one (when Reina fouled after Kyrgiakos was beaten), Soto was a bit unlucky because he was fouled outside the box. There are decisions you can discuss and not convince a person with the opposite opinion that you're right.

"The only thing I would say about the penalty kicks is that one was given by the referee, the other by the linesman. If they just tell us when the linesman takes over the authority from the referee, we'll understand it better.

"We had the benefit of it two weeks ago in Sunderland and I don't know why. Two weeks later I still don't know why.

"I know the linesman is there to be of assistance to the referee but I think it's important for them to tell us when a linesman can overrule the referee. Communication is always good.

"But we can't dictate referees' decisions, only our own. There is food for thought for us - there are things we're happy with and other things we're disappointed with."

West Brom made a tactic of manhandling Andy Carroll, but again Dalglish was cautious in his assessment.

"Andy got hit a few times but he's a big boy," said the boss "If you look back and see his booking again - I don't know where that comes from. He's running across the box and he stumbles. Someone's actually pushed him."

One reporter asked Dalglish if he felt his side played too many long balls on the day.

He replied: "Luis Suarez was the one who was causing most damage and I wouldn't say he was the tallest person, so we're not going to be that direct getting the ball to him, are we? We passed it when we could pass it and we knocked it up to Andy when we could as well. Andy is very capable on the floor so why shouldn't we knock it up to him?

"If you're talking about direct, their second goal came from a launch 20 yards outside their box."

[Gibbo]

How far off is Kelly, Citeh will rip apart a back four of Carra, Skrtel, Agger, Wilson.

[Neil Young]

Agger's injured. F*ck knows who'll play in defence.

[Rudo]

Well we've been well short of being good enough for two seasons on the trot now, when we are takling about a club the size of LFC then a massive overhaul is par for the course.

Imagine Man Utd dropping out the top 4, **** me there'd be a ****ing blood bath. We need the same mentality.

It's a bad situation. There's no getting away from it.

Them cunts are going to get their 19th league whilst us Liverpool fans are wondering if we'll ever see the day when we win another.

Makes me sick.

[Assassin]

How far off is Kelly, Citeh will rip apart a back four of Carra, Skrtel, Agger, Wilson.

Kelly will probably not pay again this season

[Mostar]

Well we've been well short of being good enough for two seasons on the trot now, when we are takling about a club the size of LFC then a massive overhaul is par for the course.

Imagine Man Utd dropping out the top 4, **** me there'd be a ****ing blood bath. We need the same mentality.

We need at least 4,5 new starters and definitely few more to improve the squad.

As far as I concerned any of these can be sold, loaned, released etc:

Jones
Konk
Aurelio
Soto
Spearing
Poulsen
J. Cole
Jovanovic

Wilson needs to be sent on a loan somewhere as he is not ready and I'm still on the fence about Agger's future due to his injury record. We may as well sell him too as every knock he gets results in long time away from team. Ngog's future also can be in jeopardy as well as Maxi's.

There is 12 players potentially right there and that doesn't even take into account Darby, El Zhar, Degen, Insua (only one I'd consider to bring back as a second choice LB) who are pretty much already gone.

[Neil Young]

My suggestions for culling the squad:

Sell:
1. Jones
2. Johnson
3. Konchesky
4. Meireles
5. Agger
6. Aurelio
7. Suarez
8. Gerrard
9. Carroll
10. J Cole
12. Pacheco
14. Jovanovic
16. Kyrgiakos
17. Maxi
18. Kuyt
21. Lucas
22. D Wilson
23. Carragher
24. Ngog
25. Reina
26. Spearing
28. Poulsen
30. Suso
31. Sterling
32. Darby
33. Shelvey
34. Kelly
35. Coady
36. Irwin
37. Skrtel
38. Flanagan
39. Eccleston
40. Ayala
41. Hansen
42. Gulacsi
43. Bouzanis
44. Mendy
45. Ince
46. Amoo
47. Wisdom
48. Bruna
49. Robinson
- Aquilani
- Chamberlain
- Cooper
- Degen
- El Zhar
- Insua
- Kohlert
- Mavinga
- Roberts
- Saric
- Sokolik
- Thomas

Keep:

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