Jon Flanagan

[RichC]

Very useful player to be part of the squad and based on who we have available should be a starter. He's got a touch of Carragher about him with his no nonsense style of play.

Needs to show he can stay fit and be part of the regular match day squad and if he can then he certainly should be getting a new contract.

[The Birdman]

Flanno's on 25k
http://www.totalsportek.com/money/li...ayer-salaries/

Yup, clearly some shenanigans going on, there is no way Flanno was given a £50k/week contract in 2011, he would have been what, 18 then and played a tiny handful of times?

The first year may have been 25k, the last year of that 4 year deal wasn't, there were increases and appearance clauses in it.

I don't know the exact figure to the penny but it's a lot more than any of us would reasonably expect him to be on given his career to date.
Kenny had a soft spot for him and sorted his contract out.

If a MOD wants to know how I know I'll tell them via PM

[The Birdman]

That's what I thought too.



He was out of contract so of course he could leave for free. We had no obligation to match his current wage cos the contract guaranteeing him that wage expired that summer. Nobody would take him even if he wanted to go because he was injured so being the nice folk we are we gave him a few quid like Dave suggests to sort him out while he got back to fitness.

No.
Bosman kicks in at 24, to protect the value/investment/training of a player under that age they have to be offered the same or more money as their last/current contract, if we had offered less Flanno turns it down and walks away for virtually nothing.

The argument at a tribunal would be you don't value him as you offered him 10k a week when previously he was on x times more.
The injury is irrelevant because they'll argue the long term view.

It would have been 1 year added to the existing contract.

[Fierce]

The first year may have been 25k, the last year of that 4 year deal wasn't, there were increases and appearance clauses in it.

I don't know the exact figure to the penny but it's a lot more than any of us would reasonably expect him to be on given his career to date.
Kenny had a soft spot for him and sorted his contract out.

If a MOD wants to know how I know I'll tell them via PM

So 3 years of a 4 year deal at £25k, the last year at £50k? Actually just re-read, you're saying his contract is/was £25k per week, but in his last year he got paid £50k based on bonuses or what have you?

I'm not for a second suggesting you're making anything up, but unless you're Flanagan's accountant I'd take whatever info you've been given with a pinch of salt

[kev776]

Rumours from Liverpool are his Agent has also spoken to Everton

[The Birdman]

So 3 years of a 4 year deal at £25k, the last year at £50k? Actually just re-read, you're saying his contract is/was £25k per week, but in his last year he got paid £50k based on bonuses or what have you?

I'm not for a second suggesting you're making anything up, but unless you're Flanagan's accountant I'd take whatever info you've been given with a pinch of salt

That would depend on who told me wouldn't it, as I've said before if a MOD wants to PM me I'll tell them.

Anyone can believe what they want, my personal opinion is he's overpaid and that his agent is asking for a lot of money purely based on the fact he's a local lad and Carra & Gerrard have retired and we need to have one apparently, it would look bad on the club if we let a scouser leave because we won't pay him as much as a foreigner...........

So Flanno's contract negotiations aren't based on his ability, or his fitness but on where he was born.

Ok, with regards to the contact here's a couple of examples -

1. 25k a week contact raising by 7.5k a year meaning in year 4 of the contact he's on £47,500 a week.
2. 25k a week contract which rises by x amount every 10 games. 40 games later = 4 incremental raises in the basic.
3. 25k a week contract with 1 trigger in it increasing it to x (insert your own figure) after a certain number of games.

If anyone thinks a player gets paid the same on day 1 of his contact as he does on the last day then that just doesn't happen.

[The Birdman]

Rumours from Liverpool are his Agent has also spoken to Everton

What's worse than potentially letting a scouser leave because you won't pay him what he wants?
Leak a rumour that he'll sign for the local rivals.

Flanno is the mini Wayne Rooney.

[Fierce]

What's worse than potentially letting a scouser leave because you won't pay him what he wants?
Leak a rumour that he'll sign for the local rivals.

Flanno is the mini Wayne Rooney.

You were doing ok until this cluster**** of a post

Mini Wayne Rooney? Nice

[Vermilion]

What's worse than potentially letting a scouser leave because you won't pay him what he wants?
Leak a rumour that he'll sign for the local rivals.

Flanno is the mini Wayne Rooney.

Stupid thing to do if that's the case.

Not going to help Flanno is it if fans believe he'd be willing to sign for them for a bit more cash.

[pezzzer]

Very useful player to be part of the squad and based on who we have available should be a starter. He's got a touch of Carragher about him with his no nonsense style of play.

Needs to show he can stay fit and be part of the regular match day squad and if he can then he certainly should be getting a new contract.

I couldn't agree more mate, he came in the season after carraghers last and for me he looks like a natural replacement, tough tackling, no nonsense leader at the back.a tad reckless but that's part of his game.

There was a great pic of him being mobbed after he scored his first goal for us and he had a little semi on the go lol

[labourRed]

Rumours last time was that Flannagan had turned down an offer of £70k, no idea what he wants. Again, no idea what he's on now but he obviously got injured before he could sign any new deal.

We do know with Carragher that the local lads certainly know their worth. He'll be after big money which is why the deal may take a while being offered as he'll have to prove he's worth it.

[G]

No.
Bosman kicks in at 24, to protect the value/investment/training of a player under that age they have to be offered the same or more money as their last/current contract, if we had offered less Flanno turns it down and walks away for virtually nothing.

The argument at a tribunal would be you don't value him as you offered him 10k a week when previously he was on x times more.
The injury is irrelevant because they'll argue the long term view.

It would have been 1 year added to the existing contract.

Walks away to who? He was long term injured at the time who'd want him? He had no entitlement to any wage once his contract ran out which it would have while he was still injured. No chance he turns down any offer that gives him a wage when the alternative is no wage at all. So it makes sense that he'd accept a token contract to tide him over and look to review it once he proved his fitness.

[Fosterbloke]

Just bollocks rumours, there might be a complex contract structure on offer based on the closeness to his current contract expiry, his potential worth to the team and his recent injury concerns. Just give it time eh?

[wongers]

this started off as people praising flanno for his efforts on the pitch and as the thread has progressed thanks to people who are "in the know" or so they say , it's decended into a kluster**** of inuendo and rumours, for fook sake get a grip, we've players who are utter garbage on three times what he's on ,he's showed perseverence and bollox to get him self back into the first team after an horrendous injury let him ask for what he want's and if the club agree thats fine if not then we'll have to move on, what i would say is ,is there a better fullback at the club now? in my opinion no

[BobTheCharmer]

this started off as people praising flanno for his efforts on the pitch and as the thread has progressed thanks to people who are "in the know" or so they say , it's decended into a kluster**** of inuendo and rumours, for fook sake get a grip, we've players who are utter garbage on three times what he's on ,he's showed perseverence and bollox to get him self back into the first team after an horrendous injury let him ask for what he want's and if the club agree thats fine if not then we'll have to move on, what i would say is ,is there a better fullback at the club now? in my opinion no

Well said mate.