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    #31
    Originally posted by Arn View Post


    You do know that it is allowed to criticise Rafa? When he make mistake then it is allowed to criticise him, you do know that?
    does this also count

    He didn't get it right today but then all managers have bad days at the office, simple as that.

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      #32
      Originally posted by destinydude View Post
      Unbelievable people are saying this. He's a classy player. You need players like him who keep moving all the time and pulls defenders/midfielders out of position.

      How many times did he arrive in the box unnoticed?

      Just coz he doesn't fancy a good old english tackle doesn't mean he's ****. There's a lot more to his game than just a poor tackle.
      Agreed

      The opinions stating that Meireles is **** is very wide of the mark he's a good player and only in his first season with us.

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        #33
        Originally posted by destinydude View Post
        Unbelievable people are saying this. He's a classy player. You need players like him who keep moving all the time and pulls defenders/midfielders out of position.

        How many times did he arrive in the box unnoticed?

        Just coz he doesn't fancy a good old english tackle doesn't mean he's ****. There's a lot more to his game than just a poor tackle.
        his movement is his best attribute but for a central midfield players thats not enough. He cant tackle for ****, his passing is poor and he gives the ball away when he's put under pressure.

        He was bought as a central midfield player and he's not good enough, then you play him wide left as we did or on the right. Compare the impact of meireles 5 goals and 2 assists or something to the potential impact a proper wide player might have and he wont get a look in next season.

        best to sell up this summer whilst some idiots will pay £6 - 8m for him.
        [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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          #34
          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
          Wow I think that's insane. Johnson's a good player and I wouldn't want to rely on two rookies. Having the three of them is ideal.
          I have changed my opinion about Glen, he's performing better defensively. I just think we can spend the money he's on better, to improve the team and squad.

          Flanagan looks like he's been playing in the first team for several years and he isn't as good as Kelly!
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            #35
            Carroll would fit an old fashioned 4-4-2. For him to play in a complex system with lots of players interchanging and based on movement, he's got to adapt his game and be more clever. I think he's got the technique to be a good player for us but not sure he's got the game intelligence. It's too early but look at how Suarez fitted in despite being a foreigner. £35m or not, Carroll isn't good enough yet for us.
            Are we winning?

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              #36
              Meireles = The thinking mans David Platt
              In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Rudo View Post
                [/B]

                get a decent fee for Johnson, say £10m and we'll be laughing.

                Flanagan can Kelly can play either side, and we'll defo be bringing in a top left back so we're sorted there.

                It breaks my heart seeing Johnson in a Liverpool shirt.
                Aye. Spunk £10m on Aaaron Hughes and that'll solve our problems.

                Give us a break here Rudo. If you 'personally' don't like him then don't rub it on us. Most of the people here want him and rate him.
                Patience when teased often, transforms into rage

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Charly View Post
                  Meireles = The thinking mans David Platt
                  That's Frank Lampard.
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    #39
                    Spurs defended very well. Clocked a great first goal and a spurious pen. I agree the final third was lack lustre but the overall performance wasnt half as bad as people are making out... **** Europa, requires far to much effort and manpower than the rewards deserve. Got better things to concentrate on next season.
                    “…Slip like Freudian, your first and last step to playing yourself like accordion.”

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Arn View Post
                      We really didn't need to do that. Replace Meireles with Shelvey and keep the rest of starting XI and the same system as we played in our last games.
                      This.
                      "Our legacy begets an excellence that surpasses the particulars of who produces it." -- David Carr

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                        #41
                        howard webb is just a egotistical self obssesed prick who can't go through a game without turning into the Howard webb show.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by el matador View Post
                          his movement is his best attribute but for a central midfield players thats not enough. He cant tackle for ****, his passing is poor and he gives the ball away when he's put under pressure.

                          He was bought as a central midfield player and he's not good enough, then you play him wide left as we did or on the right. Compare the impact of meireles 5 goals and 2 assists or something to the potential impact a proper wide player might have and he wont get a look in next season.

                          best to sell up this summer whilst some idiots will pay £6 - 8m for him.
                          Don't think a lot would agree with you. His passing is quite decent and his one touch play is something not many in this team can do.

                          If you want us to play quick pass and move, you need players like him in the middle of the park. As I said, tackling is an over rated aspect. I don't worry too much about that.

                          He's a center mid and he'll play a center mid. Just because he played wide for a couple of games doesn't mean he'll be a permanent winger for us.
                          Patience when teased often, transforms into rage

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by BrooklynRed View Post
                            We clearly watched the same match... Carroll needs players coming into the box, onto his knockdowns, teeing him up, from much closer range. That said, he'll be fine; we needed to start three in the middle. Suarez is not a poacher, he is a creator and they both need a Gerrard or Meireles bombing into the box; look at Maxi's form coming in, all based on us having three in the middle and Suarez and Kuyt being free to attack. Also, it helps you attack when the other side is pressing to score; you don't get 5 goals playing from 1-0 down.

                            Anywho, bad luck today and missing an attacking spine in the middle. We'll be fine.
                            49 goals last season should tell you that he is a goal scorer as well as a creator.

                            The bit that i dont understand is that when you play someone like carroll, your full backs have to got to hit the byline and deliver diagonals into the box. Flanagan isnt going to do that because he wants to keep things simple and johnson isnt going to do that because its on his left and its not easy to dink over decent balls on the run with your wrong foot.

                            should have maybe looked to switch johnson and flanagan and then asked flanagan to sit back and johnson to attack danny rose. as it was, neither of their fullbacks were tested, not enough decent balls were but between their defenders and the goalie.

                            The right crosses simply werent delivered for carroll to have an impact so really there was no point playing the guy.
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by el matador View Post
                              his movement is his best attribute but for a central midfield players thats not enough. He cant tackle for ****, his passing is poor and he gives the ball away when he's put under pressure.

                              He was bought as a central midfield player and he's not good enough, then you play him wide left as we did or on the right. Compare the impact of meireles 5 goals and 2 assists or something to the potential impact a proper wide player might have and he wont get a look in next season.

                              best to sell up this summer whilst some idiots will pay £6 - 8m for him.
                              and here our opinions diverge... we were FLYING with Meireles in the side, he goes down, we don't replace his position, we lose 2-0 at home and look poor. And you want to blame him for not being good out wide and not being a hard man in the middle? Hrm. he has flaws, but this is unfair, I think. he's done very well in his first season. Imagine Gerrard down this long and no Meireles; not sure Kenny would be looking so good...
                              "Our legacy begets an excellence that surpasses the particulars of who produces it." -- David Carr

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by destinydude View Post
                                Don't think a lot would agree with you. His passing is quite decent and his one touch play is something not many in this team can do.

                                If you want us to play quick pass and move, you need players like him in the middle of the park. As I said, tackling is an over rated aspect. I don't worry too much about that.

                                He's a center mid and he'll play a center mid. Just because he played wide for a couple of games doesn't mean he'll be a permanent winger for us.
                                Mate, have you ever played football ?

                                Not being disrespectful but if you dont tackle you dont win back the ball, if you dont press quickly without putting your foot in, you dont win the ball. Today, we didnt put any decent pressure and tackles on modric and he danced around us creating space for others at will.

                                For midfielders, tackling is one of the most fundamental parts of the game and thats where meireles fails because he's a bit of a pussy.
                                [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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