Galatasaray

[RoadEnd]

No-one goes for "free". They ususally command a signing on fee and an overinflated salary. We've got a couple of freebies still in our squad helping to inflate the cost of a match ticket.

[Craig_H]

I want to keep him because I believe he is a good player, he might want out but if he carries on putting effort in and putting decent performances I dont mind if he stays, I was the same with Macher.

Would you rather we loaned him out again Craig?

I think we'd be better off saving the £4m-£5m of wages, by loaning him out yeah, than keeping a player who isnt cut out for english football and doesnt want to be here.

[Chrono]

I know it's pre season but we look ****ing dreadful. No creativity in the slightest and keep trying the same bloody moves.

[McDermotX]

Good goal.......amateur defending

[Mostar]

What a goal by Elmander

[Gibbo]

Great goal Elmander, more ****e defending.

[Tee]

What. A. Volley.

[McDermotX]

Doni would have saved that.......


Or at least would have made a better effort of fishing it out of the net

[Tee]

I know it's pre season but we look ****ing dreadful. No creativity in the slightest and keep trying the same bloody moves.

Same old story isn't it.

[Craig_H]

We had that **** preseason 2 years ago and had an utterly woeful start to the campaign. People say preseason doesnt matter, but i'm afraid it does.

We need to be fielding a strong side for the remaining games and getting a couple of wins under our belts.

[Mostar]

I realize this is the pre-season but to lose 3-0 in both and only create 3 mediocre goal scoring chances is discouraging even without playing all our best players.

[Tee]

If we were not going to put out a half decent team we should not have agreed to this game.

[Mostar]

We had that **** preseason 2 years ago and had an utterly woeful start to the campaign. People say preseason doesnt matter, but i'm afraid it does.

We need to be fielding a strong side for the remaining games and getting a couple of wins under our belts.

I just made the same point.

I really hope that Kenny got our signings right this year. I really do.

[McDermotX]

We had that **** preseason 2 years ago and had an utterly woeful start to the campaign. People say preseason doesnt matter, but i'm afraid it does.

We need to be fielding a strong side for the remaining games and getting a couple of wins under our belts.

Agreed......time to start worrying about our start to the season. Load of cobwebs all over the place

[Tee]

It is even more critical because we really need to hit the ground running when the season starts. No ****ing excuses.