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Chill CliffyOriginally posted by RedReet View PostYawn.
Lucas gave away a whopping two fouls, both in the centre of the park according to the Guardian. Criminal for a defensive midfielder. That's the same as Downing, Carroll and Flanagan and 4 (yes 4) less than his midfield partner.
I pray to God that he doesn't have two consecutive poor halves for the first time in 2/3 years as it appears that some of the knives are starting to get sharpened again.
I c&p'd the article. I didn't write it.
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Yawn.Originally posted by SB View PostI thought this an interesting read and this is probably where it should go bar opening a new thread.
(9) While Lucas has improved immeasurably in the last year, he still gives away too many silly fouls. Curb that and he can be first choice in his position for years.
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2011/08...-1-sunderland/
Lucas gave away a whopping two fouls, both in the centre of the park according to the Guardian. Criminal for a defensive midfielder. That's the same as Downing, Carroll and Flanagan and 4 (yes 4) less than his midfield partner.
I pray to God that he doesn't have two consecutive poor halves for the first time in 2/3 years as it appears that some of the knives are starting to get sharpened again.
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please read pages 1-8 for the answer.Originally posted by Big-Red-Ed View PostI haven't bothered reading this thread. No offence intended. So sorry if someone has made this point. We looked knackered second half.
Why in the name of feck were we giving time in pre season to so many no hopers and not concentrating on getting our first teamers super fit?
And don't give me that shop window crap.
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I haven't bothered reading this thread. No offence intended. So sorry if someone has made this point. We looked knackered second half.
Why in the name of feck were we giving time in pre season to so many no hopers and not concentrating on getting our first teamers super fit?
And don't give me that shop window crap.
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Fat f*ck. Should have been red simple as that. The FA need to start punishing that sort of decision making by sending these guys down to the lower divisions. Attrocious decision.Originally posted by Angryred View PostIt doesn't matter which one of our players was of form or made a mistake, we lost the points because of the that comic of a referee, Dowd...got all the big calls wrong today! Had he sent off Richardson, there's no way Sunderland would have contained that football from us in 1st half with 10 men as we would have scored more...Carroll's goal should have stood too.
Think Downing switched wings regularly and with some success at Villa but seeing Kuyt on the left in the second half just didn't seem right.
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It doesn't matter which one of our players was of form or made a mistake, we lost the points because of the that comic of a referee, Dowd...got all the big calls wrong today! Had he sent off Richardson, there's no way Sunderland would have contained that football from us in 1st half with 10 men as we would have scored more...Carroll's goal should have stood too.
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A real home from home then.....beer...footy..beer..beer...beer footy..beer beer beer....fight....go home/cells ?Originally posted by Zapater View PostEven though there were quite a lot of positives Downings performances despite going missing badly particularly in the second half. Is anyone else worried about how horrendously one footed he is? Sure I'm not saying he needs to be perfectly both footed, but his right foot looks absolutely non-existent. A bit of a limitation. At times when he got the ball on the right he was reminding me a bit of a reflection of Babel.
Went to that pub to see a game... can't remember who, I was drunk when I was in Sydney to see the Ashes. I think I recognise one Scouse guy I met and was chatting to that lives there now haha. Anyhow, it went absolutely nuts when Meireles scored a volley. It's a bit of a laugh, most of those guys being Aussies and probably couldn't even tell you what the stands are called. From what I remember things got pretty aggressive towards the end of the night around 4/5am
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Even though there were quite a lot of positives Downings performances despite going missing badly particularly in the second half. Is anyone else worried about how horrendously one footed he is? Sure I'm not saying he needs to be perfectly both footed, but his right foot looks absolutely non-existent. A bit of a limitation. At times when he got the ball on the right he was reminding me a bit of a reflection of Babel.
Went to that pub to see a game... can't remember who, I was drunk when I was in Sydney to see the Ashes. I think I recognise one Scouse guy I met and was chatting to that lives there now haha. Anyhow, it went absolutely nuts when Meireles scored a volley. It's a bit of a laugh, most of those guys being Aussies and probably couldn't even tell you what the stands are called. From what I remember things got pretty aggressive towards the end of the night around 4/5amOriginally posted by Mostar View Post
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- i met a load of bluenose mates in the pub yesterday...even the most bitter one couldn't believe it - he was laughing of course, but he admitted that it was probably the easiest red you could ever give
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Still cant quite believe he wasnt sent off for that.Originally posted by PTP View Post
WIthout a doubt Richardson should have gone - straight red no questions
We'd probably be talking about a 3 or 4 goal win if a ref had done his job properly (on more than one occasion aswell). Sickening.
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A key ingredient that's missing I feelOriginally posted by PTP View Postwell first chance i've got to be online since the game so most of what i say may have been said already but anyway...
Firstly - the atmosphere was great before kick off...was a real buzz of anticaption for the first game of the season.
We started brightly and whilst i don't want people to take this the wrong way...i didn't think we were as outstanding as many have made out....I felt we were on the verge of being outstanding if that makes sense...we played well, kept position, looked lively but whilst we were playing like this....we should have really killed the game - I felt if we'd got the 2nd goal it would have settled any nerves and then we would have really clicked into gear and just ****ted them...
however that 'click' into gear just never quite came.
WIthout a doubt Richardson should have gone - straight red no questions which would have made a major impact. - However in real time, i did feel suarez took too long to make his mind up and felt he could have slotted it home earlier....that said...once he rounded the keeper he would have scored anyway, but the hesitation allowed richardson back into play...
then the penalty = well we will leae that alone
But he did make up for it with his little glancing header.
But then the 2nd half...was just ****ing clueless all over the park....Poor flannagan had a stinker and whilst harsh, i felt he should have come off for Kelly because he looked like he was going to cost us big time...his arse went and he was giving it away and making poor mistakes.....I'm not being harsh on him - he's a young lad, who has done incredible so far and has a great future, but i really did worry he was going to cost us.
The midfield just disappeared....I said before the transfer window opened that i felt we needed a midfield destroyer...a mascher or sissoko type....We've not gone for one and on paper looking at the squad a thought mmm fair enough we look ok.....but my god did we need one on Saturday - we got totally over ran which forced the back four deeper and deeper. We need some pace in there, someone to steam round the park getting possession back and we don't have it.
Poor henderson struggled, again i am not kneejerking or having to much of a go, but he just struggled at times and i'm not sure what he is yet...is he a centre mid? a right mid?
For me we are desperate to get gerrard back fit and i wouldn't mind another striker with pace to change things when needed
That said...a lot of that is just disappointment due to how bad the 2nd half was after early promise.
There is a long way too go, and i just think saturday deflated us all and brought us back down to earth......However it's early days for a young and new side, and things will only get better as the players get used to each other.....positives, Downing and Enrique hopefully look to be the answer to sort our left side out
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well first chance i've got to be online since the game so most of what i say may have been said already but anyway...
Firstly - the atmosphere was great before kick off...was a real buzz of anticaption for the first game of the season.
We started brightly and whilst i don't want people to take this the wrong way...i didn't think we were as outstanding as many have made out....I felt we were on the verge of being outstanding if that makes sense...we played well, kept position, looked lively but whilst we were playing like this....we should have really killed the game - I felt if we'd got the 2nd goal it would have settled any nerves and then we would have really clicked into gear and just ****ted them...
however that 'click' into gear just never quite came.
WIthout a doubt Richardson should have gone - straight red no questions which would have made a major impact. - However in real time, i did feel suarez took too long to make his mind up and felt he could have slotted it home earlier....that said...once he rounded the keeper he would have scored anyway, but the hesitation allowed richardson back into play...
then the penalty = well we will leae that alone
But he did make up for it with his little glancing header.
But then the 2nd half...was just ****ing clueless all over the park....Poor flannagan had a stinker and whilst harsh, i felt he should have come off for Kelly because he looked like he was going to cost us big time...his arse went and he was giving it away and making poor mistakes.....I'm not being harsh on him - he's a young lad, who has done incredible so far and has a great future, but i really did worry he was going to cost us.
The midfield just disappeared....I said before the transfer window opened that i felt we needed a midfield destroyer...a mascher or sissoko type....We've not gone for one and on paper looking at the squad a thought mmm fair enough we look ok.....but my god did we need one on Saturday - we got totally over ran which forced the back four deeper and deeper. We need some pace in there, someone to steam round the park getting possession back and we don't have it.
Poor henderson struggled, again i am not kneejerking or having to much of a go, but he just struggled at times and i'm not sure what he is yet...is he a centre mid? a right mid?
For me we are desperate to get gerrard back fit and i wouldn't mind another striker with pace to change things when needed
That said...a lot of that is just disappointment due to how bad the 2nd half was after early promise.
There is a long way too go, and i just think saturday deflated us all and brought us back down to earth......However it's early days for a young and new side, and things will only get better as the players get used to each other.....positives, Downing and Enrique hopefully look to be the answer to sort our left side out
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