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Had a quick look on the Arsenal forum.
Few posts like this. Sounds vaguely familiar.Wenger: "We had a good performance..."
He doesn't need sacking, he needs ******* SECTIONING.
This is as low as he's ever stooped.
He should have been sacked a month before the start of the season. I can't believe it.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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Right - just got back from the game to read this thread and be utterly astounded by some of the negativity on here. Amazing - what did some of you expect, for us to go to the Emirates, play Arsenal off the pitch like we are Brazil circa 1970 and they are Marine? Some people need to recalibrate their expectations I think, because as far as I can tell, we just went to our most likely rival for 4th place, restricted them to the square route of **** all in terms of chances and tucked two excellent goals away without ever looking particularly ruffled. IMHO we were in no way lucky. They hardly threatened throughout the game. We had more space after Frimpong got sent off, but I always felt we were the most likely to score (as did most of the gooners sitting around me).
Right - that's my general overview, some more specific points:
Henderson: I'm still not 100% sure what kind of a player he is but he did play extremely well today (I know that sounds daft, but bear with me please). A significant improvement on his debut and I couldn't help but think during the game that this performance would hopefully silence a few of his critics. No luck their though it seems. He kept the ball in all sorts of difficult, pressurized positions and demonstrated throughout the game the one thing I was 100% sure of about him - an astounding engine. The boy gets around the pitch and puts himself in positions to help the team all game long and his technique seems very good. Well done the lad and keep on improving.
Adam also seems to have come on since the Sunderland game, played like a mini Scottish Alonso at times. Not quite up to the standards of everyone's favorite Basque, but he done well nonetheless.
Enrique: Played a blinder all game. All the gooners around me were moaning that Walcott had done nothing for them this game, but it seemed as though Enrique just had his number and didn't let him out of his pocket until the final whistle blew. I hope he continues in this vein.
Our defence in general played extremely well I thought and never really let arsenal get a look in, which is great going against them at their own place, whether they are suffering with injuries or not. In addition to Enrique, a special mention should also go to Agger, who looked comfortable and assured throughout.
On Carroll I must have been watching another game to some of those posting on here, because while he was on the pitch I could swear he got through tons of work, played the target man role well and brought others into play throughout his stint. I will agree though, that he didn't pose a serious goal threat often enough for my liking, but he isn't the type of player to take on a team, dribble it past them and score. He feeds off opportunities his teammates engineer and they are hard to come by when you play at the Emirates. I still don't think the players and coaches fully know how best to use him in our team as it's been over a generation since we had a really good target man, but there is plenty of quality in that big frame to work with so I'm not too worried. While I'm on about Carroll a special mention should go to Vermaelen who played an outstanding game today, arsenal's MOM by a mile IMHO.
Suarez: Simply ****ing awesome. My biggest gripe from today was having to wait until 20 minutes from the end of the game to see him on. But once he was on, Arsenal crumbled whenever he attacked them and he looked head and shoulders better than every other player on the pitch. Whenever he's on the pitch, I can't help but think anything is possible. He could literally, take it past the whole defence and score. Or set up Kuyt for a tap in from 6 inches against the scum. Or something amazing like that. Either way - me like.
Meireles came on at the same time and played in a forward role supporting Suarez, which is a position I'd never seen him play in the flesh before. He was involved throughout his time on the pitch and seemed to link up extremely well with Suarez. There might be some mileage in playing him like this again I think (if he stays). With both Suarez and Meireles it's difficult to separate their own contributions from Arsenal faltering after their sending off. To be honest, I think there was a bit of both in play here as we did find space easier to come by after Frimpong got his marching orders, but nothing should detract from the fact that these two came on and made a significant positive contribution to our play and hurt arsenal at every opportunity they got.
All in all a very ****ing good day. I don't care if Arsenal were weakened through injuries and suspension, boo ****ing hoo it happens to us every season and no one gives a **** apart from to moan about a lack of depth in our squad. At the end of the day you can only beat what's in front of you which is exactly what we did. I can't wait for the bolton game now, really hope we build up some early season momentum and confidence. Just think - We've beaten our main rival for 4th at their place without Gerrard, Suarez (for 70 mins) or GJ.
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What a marvellously uplifting and positive post. Glad your time and expense have been rewarded with a great away win. You must be buzzin' mate. No feeling like it.Originally posted by memzey View PostRight - just got back from the game to read this thread and be utterly astounded by some of the negativity on here. Amazing - what did some of you expect, for us to go to the Emirates, play Arsenal off the pitch like we are Brazil circa 1970 and they are Marine? Some people need to recalibrate their expectations I think, because as far as I can tell, we just went to our most likely rival for 4th place, restricted them to the square route of **** all in terms of chances and tucked two excellent goals away without ever looking particularly ruffled. IMHO we were in no way lucky. They hardly threatened throughout the game. We had more space after Frimpong got sent off, but I always felt we were the most likely to score (as did most of the gooners sitting around me).
Right - that's my general overview, some more specific points:
Henderson: I'm still not 100% sure what kind of a player he is but he did play extremely well today (I know that sounds daft, but bear with me please). A significant improvement on his debut and I couldn't help but think during the game that this performance would hopefully silence a few of his critics. No luck their though it seems. He kept the ball in all sorts of difficult, pressurized positions and demonstrated throughout the game the one thing I was 100% sure of about him - an astounding engine. The boy gets around the pitch and puts himself in positions to help the team all game long and his technique seems very good. Well done the lad and keep on improving.
Adam also seems to have come on since the Sunderland game, played like a mini Scottish Alonso at times. Not quite up to the standards of everyone's favorite Basque, but he done well nonetheless.
Enrique: Played a blinder all game. All the gooners around me were moaning that Walcott had done nothing for them this game, but it seemed as though Enrique just had his number and didn't let him out of his pocket until the final whistle blew. I hope he continues in this vein.
Our defence in general played extremely well I thought and never really let arsenal get a look in, which is great going against them at their own place, whether they are suffering with injuries or not. In addition to Enrique, a special mention should also go to Agger, who looked comfortable and assured throughout.
On Carroll I must have been watching another game to some of those posting on here, because while he was on the pitch I could swear he got through tons of work, played the target man role well and brought others into play throughout his stint. I will agree though, that he didn't pose a serious goal threat often enough for my liking, but he isn't the type of player to take on a team, dribble it past them and score. He feeds off opportunities his teammates engineer and they are hard to come by when you play at the Emirates. I still don't think the players and coaches fully know how best to use him in our team as it's been over a generation since we had a really good target man, but there is plenty of quality in that big frame to work with so I'm not too worried. While I'm on about Carroll a special mention should go to Vermaelen who played an outstanding game today, arsenal's MOM by a mile IMHO.
Suarez: Simply ****ing awesome. My biggest gripe from today was having to wait until 20 minutes from the end of the game to see him on. But once he was on, Arsenal crumbled whenever he attacked them and he looked head and shoulders better than every other player on the pitch. Whenever he's on the pitch, I can't help but think anything is possible. He could literally, take it past the whole defence and score. Or set up Kuyt for a tap in from 6 inches against the scum. Or something amazing like that. Either way - me like.
Meireles came on at the same time and played in a forward role supporting Suarez, which is a position I'd never seen him play in the flesh before. He was involved throughout his time on the pitch and seemed to link up extremely well with Suarez. There might be some mileage in playing him like this again I think (if he stays). With both Suarez and Meireles it's difficult to separate their own contributions from Arsenal faltering after their sending off. To be honest, I think there was a bit of both in play here as we did find space easier to come by after Frimpong got his marching orders, but nothing should detract from the fact that these two came on and made a significant positive contribution to our play and hurt arsenal at every opportunity they got.
All in all a very ****ing good day. I don't care if Arsenal were weakened through injuries and suspension, boo ****ing hoo it happens to us every season and no one gives a **** apart from to moan about a lack of depth in our squad. At the end of the day you can only beat what's in front of you which is exactly what we did. I can't wait for the bolton game now, really hope we build up some early season momentum and confidence. Just think - We've beaten our main rival for 4th at their place without Gerrard, Suarez (for 70 mins) or GJ.
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Originally posted by memzey View Postbecause as far as I can tell, we just went to our most likely rival for 4th place, restricted them to the square route of **** all in terms of chances and tucked two excellent goals away
Agree with the general sentiment, but that's pushing it just a tad.
Great to get the 3pts in the bag though, a win was the most important thing.
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Originally posted by memzey View PostRight - just got back from the game to read this thread and be utterly astounded by some of the negativity on here. Amazing - what did some of you expect, for us to go to the Emirates, play Arsenal off the pitch like we are Brazil circa 1970 and they are Marine? Some people need to recalibrate their expectations I think, because as far as I can tell, we just went to our most likely rival for 4th place, restricted them to the square route of **** all in terms of chances and tucked two excellent goals away without ever looking particularly ruffled. IMHO we were in no way lucky. They hardly threatened throughout the game. We had more space after Frimpong got sent off, but I always felt we were the most likely to score (as did most of the gooners sitting around me).
Right - that's my general overview, some more specific points:
Henderson: I'm still not 100% sure what kind of a player he is but he did play extremely well today (I know that sounds daft, but bear with me please). A significant improvement on his debut and I couldn't help but think during the game that this performance would hopefully silence a few of his critics. No luck their though it seems. He kept the ball in all sorts of difficult, pressurized positions and demonstrated throughout the game the one thing I was 100% sure of about him - an astounding engine. The boy gets around the pitch and puts himself in positions to help the team all game long and his technique seems very good. Well done the lad and keep on improving.
Adam also seems to have come on since the Sunderland game, played like a mini Scottish Alonso at times. Not quite up to the standards of everyone's favorite Basque, but he done well nonetheless.
Enrique: Played a blinder all game. All the gooners around me were moaning that Walcott had done nothing for them this game, but it seemed as though Enrique just had his number and didn't let him out of his pocket until the final whistle blew. I hope he continues in this vein.
Our defence in general played extremely well I thought and never really let arsenal get a look in, which is great going against them at their own place, whether they are suffering with injuries or not. In addition to Enrique, a special mention should also go to Agger, who looked comfortable and assured throughout.
On Carroll I must have been watching another game to some of those posting on here, because while he was on the pitch I could swear he got through tons of work, played the target man role well and brought others into play throughout his stint. I will agree though, that he didn't pose a serious goal threat often enough for my liking, but he isn't the type of player to take on a team, dribble it past them and score. He feeds off opportunities his teammates engineer and they are hard to come by when you play at the Emirates. I still don't think the players and coaches fully know how best to use him in our team as it's been over a generation since we had a really good target man, but there is plenty of quality in that big frame to work with so I'm not too worried. While I'm on about Carroll a special mention should go to Vermaelen who played an outstanding game today, arsenal's MOM by a mile IMHO.
Suarez: Simply ****ing awesome. My biggest gripe from today was having to wait until 20 minutes from the end of the game to see him on. But once he was on, Arsenal crumbled whenever he attacked them and he looked head and shoulders better than every other player on the pitch. Whenever he's on the pitch, I can't help but think anything is possible. He could literally, take it past the whole defence and score. Or set up Kuyt for a tap in from 6 inches against the scum. Or something amazing like that. Either way - me like.
Meireles came on at the same time and played in a forward role supporting Suarez, which is a position I'd never seen him play in the flesh before. He was involved throughout his time on the pitch and seemed to link up extremely well with Suarez. There might be some mileage in playing him like this again I think (if he stays). With both Suarez and Meireles it's difficult to separate their own contributions from Arsenal faltering after their sending off. To be honest, I think there was a bit of both in play here as we did find space easier to come by after Frimpong got his marching orders, but nothing should detract from the fact that these two came on and made a significant positive contribution to our play and hurt arsenal at every opportunity they got.
All in all a very ****ing good day. I don't care if Arsenal were weakened through injuries and suspension, boo ****ing hoo it happens to us every season and no one gives a **** apart from to moan about a lack of depth in our squad. At the end of the day you can only beat what's in front of you which is exactly what we did. I can't wait for the bolton game now, really hope we build up some early season momentum and confidence. Just think - We've beaten our main rival for 4th at their place without Gerrard, Suarez (for 70 mins) or GJ.

Well said. Some moaning *******s on here.If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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I dont normally post after match but i was at the game today in the home end sitting on my hands..
Reina, as usual great!
Enrique:
What a match. Complete player. always showing up front and at the back was clever with his use except in the first half where he made a silly back pass but my god what a signing
Carragher
Still think he is a weak link but still good performance and marshalling of defence
Agger
Couple of good runs forward and good in defence
Kelly
Composure way beyond his years. always showing up front on the overlap
future CB
Kuyt
Full of energy but gave a lot of ball away
Henderson
Not a brilliant game but was always looking for the ball. needs time but shows promise
Downing
Demanded the ball all the time, popped up everywhere
Adam
Sat in midfield and seemed to have extra time on the ball, a good buy
Lucas
Looked tired to me but still gave it all
Carroll
Thankless role on his own upfront but did cause massive issues for the arsenal CBs, id like to have seen a fully fit suarez with him up front as he was taking both cbs with him with every ball in
Raul
Must stay, great going forward
Suarez
First time I have seen him play.. One word .. awesome. I have never seen a player with such explosive pace and skill. What a signing
The one thing I have noticed in this team is the amount of leaders .The last time i saw the reds play was the beachball game (in the home end again
) and when comparing this team to that, this team is full of leaders looking for the ball not hiding.
Arsenal were dung but hey its a great win
I thought Frimpong had a great match before being sent off.
Arsenal fans baying for blood and on their teams back
Diire sqaud
and finally
I Hate Cockneys!!
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Really, seems you are unable to understand hereOriginally posted by JHP View PostI just about have the capacity to know what context means but seems you don't know what consensus means. Guess you can remain in blissful ignorance.
maybe if you did you would also see that may statement was only referring to those who were questioning Henderson. Maybe when your a little older it'll make sense.
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When I'm a little older I'll be dead you cheeky little sod.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostReally, seems you are unable to understand here
maybe if you did you would also see that may statement was only referring to those who were unsure why he is starting. Maybe when your a little older it'll make sense.
I know you were referring to those who dodn't think he should start, my point is I don't believe the consensus you referred to exists. I'll leave it there.
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Fine, check the Henderson thread, that is why gathered my opinion of it from, no one there was having ago at Henderson, just generally thinking we have better options.Originally posted by JHP View PostWhen I'm a little older I'll be dead you cheeky little sod.
I know you were referring to those who dodn't think he should start, my point is I don't believe the consensus you referred to exists. I'll leave it there.
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