Neither of them are of the ilk of Lee Bowyer, so we'll be fine.
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I believe Rafa has got the squad to the point where we are ultra-professional. Just by a process of osmosis this will have a beneficial effect on CB&JP.Originally posted by musicalredi reckon Rafa will sort them out and if not then he wont be afraid to say harsh words - but they both are playing for their dream club so they should put the past behind -
and as a supporter i couldnt really care less what has gone before and the reputations they have - lets give them at least a season to bed in and sort themselves out before we make any harsh judgements on the pair of them
Fowler is both JP&CB's hero. Imagine seeing him drinking Orange Juice and busting a gut to get a game. That'd affect you!
Let's just say they have the best possible environment in which to succeed. I think they will, but if they dont. Rafa'll can their arse quicker than they can sneeze.The Crushing Machine MKII
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Agreed slartibartfast.Originally posted by slartibartfastHow does everyone here think that they would handle living in London and being the subject of a then record transfer for somebody your age at 15?
Who can honestly tell me that it wouldn't go to their head?
I couldn't.
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Not sure about Jermaine's unbringing, but I can't see any association with Robbie Ryder. God was brought up in a single parent enviroment in the toughest part of Liverpool, and has become the (according to most reports) richest football in Britain. He has never been in jail, never been in trouble with the police (to any great degree I believe) and the worst that he has done is cut up a few trainers, got punched by Razor, showed his arse to Le Saux and pretended to snort a line in retailiation to MANY snide remarks from bitter blues, the very fans he was part of.Originally posted by SpeedyGI have 0 impluse control, so If I was getting the kind of money he was, I'd be dead of alcholol poisioning/drug overdoes/veneral disease by now. He's done a damn sight better than I would have, so good luck to him.
Doesn't he come from a working class, below the poverty line, broken family type background? If so they are all factors.
I think he'll do good, it took GOD till 30 to grow up, I think we may just see JP grow up this year and next.
Let me point this out - Jermaine Pennant willingly drove a (most probably high powered at a nice speed) car whilst under the influence. I don't give a **** if he had of killed himself, its the innocent people he is risking. Hence the jail sentence. He also was already banned and had no insurance...and had been done before. This 'stupid kid' was worse than Rio or Mutu, or anyone else taking drugs - they are merely harming themselves - Jermaine could easily have killed someone.
Robbie showed his arse, supported dockers and sat in a dentist's chair while some people threw cocktails down his neck - there is no comparision. Regardless of what Jermaine Pennant achieves in his career, his record will always be there. Rightly so. Robbie however was a 'scamp' who was always int he wrong place at the wrong time - but not behind a wheel.HOT CANCER.
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There's no "round of applause" smiley. It's needed here. Well said man.Originally posted by IanTheRedNot sure about Jermaine's unbringing, but I can't see any association with Robbie Ryder. God was brought up in a single parent enviroment in the toughest part of Liverpool, and has become the (according to most reports) richest football in Britain. He has never been in jail, never been in trouble with the police (to any great degree I believe) and the worst that he has done is cut up a few trainers, got punched by Razor, showed his arse to Le Saux and pretended to snort a line in retailiation to MANY snide remarks from bitter blues, the very fans he was part of.
Let me point this out - Jermaine Pennant willingly drove a (most probably high powered at a nice speed) car whilst under the influence. I don't give a **** if he had of killed himself, its the innocent people he is risking. Hence the jail sentence. He also was already banned and had no insurance...and had been done before. This 'stupid kid' was worse than Rio or Mutu, or anyone else taking drugs - they are merely harming themselves - Jermaine could easily have killed someone.
Robbie showed his arse, supported dockers and sat in a dentist's chair while some people threw cocktails down his neck - there is no comparision. Regardless of what Jermaine Pennant achieves in his career, his record will always be there. Rightly so. Robbie however was a 'scamp' who was always int he wrong place at the wrong time - but not behind a wheel.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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Sorry mate, see where you are coming from but I think you are reading far more into what I said than I intended. I was just contrasting the ultra-professional Robbie of today with the one that sniffed the goal-line. That's all, no slight on Robbie, he is after all GOD.Originally posted by IanTheRedNot sure about Jermaine's unbringing, but I can't see any association with Robbie Ryder. God was brought up in a single parent enviroment in the toughest part of Liverpool, and has become the (according to most reports) richest football in Britain. He has never been in jail, never been in trouble with the police (to any great degree I believe) and the worst that he has done is cut up a few trainers, got punched by Razor, showed his arse to Le Saux and pretended to snort a line in retailiation to MANY snide remarks from bitter blues, the very fans he was part of.
Let me point this out - Jermaine Pennant willingly drove a (most probably high powered at a nice speed) car whilst under the influence. I don't give a **** if he had of killed himself, its the innocent people he is risking. Hence the jail sentence. He also was already banned and had no insurance...and had been done before. This 'stupid kid' was worse than Rio or Mutu, or anyone else taking drugs - they are merely harming themselves - Jermaine could easily have killed someone.
Robbie showed his arse, supported dockers and sat in a dentist's chair while some people threw cocktails down his neck - there is no comparision. Regardless of what Jermaine Pennant achieves in his career, his record will always be there. Rightly so. Robbie however was a 'scamp' who was always int he wrong place at the wrong time - but not behind a wheel.
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No problem Speedy, I was merely defining the difference between pranks (however stupid) and someone who has, in the distant past hopefully, done things that could endanger others.Originally posted by SpeedyGSorry mate, see where you are coming from but I think you are reading far more into what I said than I intended. I was just contrasting the ultra-professional Robbie of today with the one that sniffed the goal-line. That's all, no slight on Robbie, he is after all GOD.
I personally hope that Pennant is an absolute star for us and he leaves it all behind, a Lee Hughes he isn't as yet.
I think this heat is getting to everyone, myself included!
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But I have no excuse, I'm in South Florida and my whole house AC is set @ 75. Aaah, LovelyOriginally posted by IanTheRedNo problem Speedy, I was merely defining the difference between pranks (however stupid) and someone who has, in the distant past hopefully, done things that could endanger others.
I personally hope that Pennant is an absolute star for us and he leaves it all behind, a Lee Hughes he isn't as yet.
I think this heat is getting to everyone, myself included!
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FLMAO!!
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