Comolli Sacked

[Daniel 7]

Hazard is the hype and the buzz name coming out of the European market just now. How many people on this thread, or on this forum, have actually watched him play 10 games to make an adequate judgement as to whether he'd be suitable for us? (Not that out judgement means anything of course)

I'd suggest that it would be a very, very small number.

[Mostar]

Analysis of transfer fees in isolation is ****ing pointless and pathetic

Mata is on double the wages Downing is on and that would have to be included in any cost analysis of any players

That said Downing is ****ing ****e and we shouldnt have touched him imo

Easily the worst purchase made by Kenny imo

My understanding is he is on about the same wages as Downing

But we have no idea when we said "no not interested"

Was it before discussing ballpark figures with his agent or was it before that

I'd be surprised if contact wasnt made with his agent to at least find out what sort of wages he would be looking for

Decisions on players will more often than not be made when you have all the figures in front of you

If the total financial package is above your parameters then its a no go

Personally I dont think Mata & Aguero where ever options on this basis and neither will Hazard imo

Mata I am not sure we were ever really interested especially if there is any truth in that story about Kenny wanting Downing instead but Aguero definitely as we would never get into bidding war with Cityh.

In terms of Hazard I do agree I don't think we have slightest chance.

Before any of the hysterical brigade pull you up on this.

Mata's reported wages is between 65k and 80k. Not a whole lot more, maybe less then Downing.

The simple fact with Mata vs. Downing when Fee, wages and length of contract are the same was we prefered one over the other. I wish people would stop going on about it.

[Lecter]

My understaning is he is on about the same wages as Downing

Even if this is true and I frankly I dont believe it is Mata's fee was significantly more than that we paid for Downing

Its reportedly minimum £23 million plus add ons rising to £29 million they paid for him

That still doesnt escape from the fact that Downing is shocking and the money should have been spent elsewhere

Its just the Mata comparisons I dispute

[danperkins]

Where has this Comolli article come from? Is it some ****e website or a reputable sources?

[Mostar]

Even if this is true and I frankly I dont believe it is Mata's fee was significantly more than that we paid for Downing

Its reportedly minimum £23 million plus add ons rising to £29 million they paid for him

That still doesnt escape from the fact that Downing is shocking and the money should have been spent elsewhere

Its just the Mata comparisons I dispute

[Baracus]

Mata is on more than that

His fee was also considerably more as the fee is reportedly worth upto £29 million if you believe the reports

To me the comparisons are ****ing pointless and it dilutes the argument imo

We shouldnt have bought Downing and the money would have been better spent elsewhere
Unfortunately that elsewhere doesnt include options like Juan Mata or Eden Hazard

We should be looking to see how best to move forward.

[Fredo]

Just watched Moneyball.

[Mostar]

Just watched Moneyball.

So did you like it

[Fredo]

Yeah, good film. John Henry

[Mostar]

Yeah, good film. John Henry

[barnes10]

frankly, mata could be on 3 times the wages downing is on and double the transfer fee. chelsea still would have the better deal...

[danperkins]

frankly, mata could be on 3 times the wages downing is on and double the transfer fee. chelsea still would have the better deal...

[Lecter]

frankly, mata could be on 3 times the wages downing is on and double the transfer fee. chelsea still would have the better deal...

If you cant afford it you cant afford it

Irrespective of how good the deal is affordability will be the key

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

If you cant afford it you cant afford it

Irrespective of how good the deal is affordability will be the key

Based on our transfers I'd say we could afford it.. Mata is world class so we'd have no problem paying him 80-100k, surely?

Carroll is on 80k I know this for an absolute FACT

Even if Mata cost £9m more than Downing, I doubt that would have been the key factor, the key factor must have been Camolli/Kenny wanted Downing and seemingly didn't consider Mata.

[kris90210]

I don't think any of us truly know how viable a target Mata was. But if he was within reach and we opted for Downing then that is fairly damning evidence of Dalglish's poor judgement in the transfer market.

As I said, all we can do is speculate, but hopefully the owners will know the score.

Lecter, the reports say the transfer fee is 23.5 million. Why would the add ons not be announced? If you're right, that's pretty unusual isn't it? You also seem to be speculating on Downing and Mata's wages as though what you're saying is fact. Is it fact, or are you guessing? It's quite hard to tell sometimes.