FA Cup Final Post Match

[Fredo]

Utter nonsense.

People want to see progress and that is where opinion is divided. Some claim to see progress, others claim not to see progress.

Branding one group as wanting us to become Chelsea is just a cop-out way of not addressing their arguments.

Chelsea sack their managers regardless of what they do for flavours of the month if they mess up in the Champions League or don't win a trophy.

Sick of that term. So easy to use. Like calling those who still have faith as having 'blind faith'. It's just so easy and not constructive at all.

I think it's fair to say that 2 cup finals (mean that we're at least competing for trophies) is a form of progress. It's great experience for some of the players as well.

[Bender]

we were pretty awful in those 2 cup finals

[FrankB34]

Utter nonsense.

People want to see progress and that is where opinion is divided. Some claim to see progress, others claim not to see progress.

Branding one group as wanting us to become Chelsea is just a cop-out way of not addressing their arguments.

Chelsea sack their managers regardless of what they do for flavours of the month if they mess up in the Champions League or don't win a trophy.

Sick of that term. So easy to use. Like calling those who still have faith as having 'blind faith'. It's just so easy and not constructive at all.

Not the sharpest tool is our Craig H

[Fredo]

we were pretty awful in those 2 cup finals

Strangely, what I'm witnessing now is exactly the same feeling that I had before we sacked Rafa. Some fans turning against our manager and the rest we all know what happened.

[Phoenix07]

I think it's fair to say that 2 cup finals (mean that we're at least competing for trophies) is a form of progress. It's great experience for some of the players as well.

I agree. It shows something is right. Henderson and Carroll especially will benefit from it. The counterargument is the mentality issue.

Constructive stuff as long as it doesn't get silly.

[Daniel 7]

I'd say we were better in yesterday's cup final than the Carling Cup we won.

[Craig_H]

Not the sharpest tool is our Craig H

Oh, the irony.

Sharp or not, you're certainly a tool.

[Craig_H]

I agree. It shows something is right. Henderson and Carroll especially will benefit from it. The counterargument is the mentality issue.

Constructive stuff as long as it doesn't get silly.

I'll give you constructive: clubs which change managers every year or 18 months are very very very rarely successful.

[Phoenix07]

Oh, the irony.

Sharp or not, you're certainly a tool.

Just to contradict my previous post about being constructive, not a bad response there Craig.

[Bender]

Strangely, what I'm witnessing now is exactly the same feeling that I had before we sacked Rafa. Some fans turning against our manager and the rest we all know what happened.

but those fans who are as you say turning have every right to!If kenny gets next season then we have to start winning from the off no more players need settling in even if we sign more players......otherwise we will end up changing manager mid season

[Fredo]

but those fans who are as you say turning have every right to!

A bit of patience wouldn't go amiss.

[Bender]

A bit of patience wouldn't go amiss.

patience is fine but when your losing games we should win then patience is not what is required........why is it some/most of the players just don't seem up for it ? they should be busting a gut every minute of every game ....doesn't seem that way

[Craig_H]

It'll be very different next season.

[Fredo]

patience is fine but when your losing games we should win then patience is not what is required........why is it some/most of the players just don't seem up for it ? they should be busting a gut every minute of every game ....doesn't seem that way

I don't think it's an attitude issue. We played Chelsea off the park for 30 minutes.

It wouldn't change if we had a new manager. He would be expected to win straight away but would it be realistic though? Each period of change means transition. Let's get through the transition with Kenny, then bring someone in for the long term after he's done with that. If we can't trust Kenny, then we're desperate IMO.

[Bender]

It'll be very different next season.

hope so