FA Cup Final Post Match

[Craig_H]

i'm comparing utter **** to still kind of ****. i don't even want him to leave necessarily, but since as you say continuity is the way to success even when there's a manager many don't think is up to the task...well that's just an over simplification, isn't it? continuity is only going to do you any favours if you've got the right man.

The cavaet that continuity is usually the key to success as long as you're not in with a chance of relegation, was a fairly obvious one, i thought.

[little dave hedgehog]

Roy had us humbled by Northampton and in the relegation zone. The target was a top half position FFS. The two are beyond comparison.

which is why kenny retained his position twice as long as hodgson.

[little dave hedgehog]

The cavaet that continuity is usually the key to success as long as you're not in with a chance of relegation, was a fairly obvious one, i thought.

ok, so if roy had us in 9th place playing hodgson ball, you'd back him to still be here?

[Craig_H]

ok, so if roy had us in 9th place playing hodgson ball, you'd back him to still be here?

Under Hodgson, we were outplayed in all but about 3 games.

Under Kenny, we've been the better side in more games than not, across the season.

[little dave hedgehog]

and yet here we are, about to play out the worst league campaign since we were last relegated. the league form this season has been an epic failure. you have to admit if he got sacked it wouldn't be completely without reason.

[Craig_H]

I dont think our league position is where we deserve to be. Kenny had us playing excellent football with results for half a season last year, so i dont see why it's beyond possibility that he could do again, what he's already done not so long ago. Hodgson never had us playing good football.

[Exiled_red]

Roy had us humbled by Northampton and in the relegation zone. The target was a top half position FFS. The two are beyond comparison.

[Exiled_red]

Under Hodgson, we were outplayed in all but about 3 games.

Under Kenny, we've been the better side in more games than not, across the season.

I dont think our league position is where we deserve to be. Kenny had us playing excellent football with results for half a season last year, so i dont see why it's beyond possibility that he could do again, what he's already done not so long ago. Hodgson never had us playing good football.

[Bender]

good football v bad football = terrible league positions

[Mattshark]

I think we're on course for a not too dissimilar amount of points to what we got in both Rafa and Houllier's first seasons, the difference is the league is stronger and it means the same number of points will see you finish lower down the league.

Like it or not we were probably in a worse position when Kenny came in than when either of those two came in, but IMO we are playing better football than we did in both of those seasons. The difference is our expectations have increased because under Rafa we were in the CL every season. We are in a period of transition, I don't think if we sack Kenny things will suddenly turn around. The only concerns I have are that the form has suddenly dropped so much in the second half of the season and the fact we don't have a settled system yet.

Erm, if we don't win both our remaining games we are on course for our worst ever prem season. This is akin to a Souness season.

To say the league strong is not true imo, City are stronger and Spurs have improved, but Chelsea, United and Arsenal are weaker.

We did yes, and since then we have gone backwards.

[little dave hedgehog]

we've been fairly bereft since february. it's at the very least a worrying sign when every one in your side apart from andy carroll appears to be actively getting worse.

[Buzzo]

According to the Express this morning;



Not sure whether to laugh at that or cry...

I equally don't want to further stick the knife in to Jay, but we all saw how out of his depth he was yesterday. As far as journalism goes that is so poor. We were out of the game until 2 things happened, Jay went off and Carroll came on, it had twice the impact removing our worst player and putting on the guy who went on to be our best. Everyone could see that... And these muppets get paid to watch and write about football as well

[little dave hedgehog]

buttso!

[Bender]

funny dalglish when he came as caretaker was winning game and we were close to the champs league but towards the end of last season and continuing this season we have been on a downwards spiral

[JHP]

I don't understand how nearly every thread descends into a debate about whether Dalglish should continue or be replaced. It all seems puerile as I can't see any way FSG will replace Dalglish this summer. All the advice they will have received from people who know the game is that he should stay.

People will acknowledge that this year hasn't been good enough but will agree that to move on requires continuity.