Luck

[mick the click]

[QUOTE=Muddled;2292727]I think we have lacked the 'rub of the green' this season.

Luck see's the ball come off the post and go in, or at least fall to a following up player. Bad luck is when it bypasses that on rushing player, or goes wide. Which has happened all season.

Obviously it's not the complete story of our season, but it has played a part.[/QUOTE]

A huge part.

There isn't a winning team anywhere, anytime, that hasn't had its share of good luck.

Yep, we've been shambolic and clueless at times. We have also played some sublime football.

The 'rub of the green' has certainly not been ours this season.

Hitting the post so many times in the heat of battle means a miscalculation so miniscule it's probably impossible to compute.

[Mattshark]

Luck is not a reason, lack of quality is.

[Craig_H]

I dont know if i'd use the word luck but it's certainly true that there's been a disproportionate number of things that wouldnt happen in a 'normal' season, happen to us this season. I'm not going to say we're 'unlucky' but nobody can tell me that 30 odd times hitting the post and missing about 5 penalties is normal practice.

[jonnygrunter]

A discussion on luck.

A new low.

Have to say that I agree, our problem this season is that we are just not good enough.

[Fredo]

Luck is not a reason, lack of quality is.

Lack of quality in being efficient, you're right.

[Mattshark]

Lack of quality in being efficient, you're right.

Lack of quality in general, you don't end up 8th by being on under 50 points after 36 games through luck, you end up their because you are not very good.

[Fredo]

Well we are where we are for not finishing off games. We're not that bad in the grand scheme of things. We need more quality for sure.

[Craig_H]

Lack of quality in general, you don't end up 8th by being on under 50 points after 36 games through luck, you end up their because you are not very good.

I'm not going to tell you we should be in the top 4, but come on mate, things have happened this season which would never happen normally.

Of course a fair bit of it is down to us and mistakes we've made, but there's been a freakish amount of stuff happen which never normally would.

[Mattshark]

Well we are where we are for not finishing off games. We're not that bad in the grand scheme of things. We need more quality for sure.

The league is a good representation of quality, right now it says Everton are better than us.

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The league is a good representation of quality, right now it says Everton are better than us.

Or they've done better...

[Fredo]

Stats show that we've dominated a lot of games. Matt will tell you we interpret them in a simplistic manner though.

[Craig_H]

Or they've done better...

Exactly. I wouldnt say they are better than us though.

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But at the end of the season do you want to be better or above everyone else..?

[Mattshark]

Stats show that we've dominated a lot of games. Matt will tell you we interpret them in a simplistic manner though.

Stats also show we have lost 13 league games and are on par with Fulham.

[Mattshark]

But at the end of the season do you want to be better or above everyone else..?

The two things are commonly linked.