New manager thread

[Lecter]

OK, but to promote from within, you need something there to start with, right? Steve Clark for manager?

Surely your evolution comes from appointing a manager and sticking with him for a period of more than 6-18 months

Thats my worry about FSG, they have taken the nuclear option this time and even if they put their own man in the job I think they will want immediate and instant results

I fear this is the beginning of a revolving door of managers myself

[dom9]

That would be appear to be as well as we can do.

There are no world class managers queuing up at the door, apart from Rafa.

[Vermilion]

Wonder if LFC had/has a chance of Guardiola ?

If we did...we've maybe sacked Kenny a tad too soon, but then we didn't know Guardiola was going to come out and say what he has.

[Vermilion]

That would be appear to be as well as we can do.

There are no world class managers queuing up at the door, apart from Rafa.

For sure ? Just because you haven't seen a picture of them.

Does LVG not come under World Class ? What more does he need to win ?

[meffin]

[Vermilion]

Bessies.

[dom9]

Surely your evolution comes from appointing a manager and sticking with him for a period of more than 6-18 months

Thats my worry about FSG, they have taken the nuclear option this time and even if they put their own man in the job I think they will want immediate and instant results

I fear this is the beginning of a revolving door of managers myself

It's already a revolving door since Rafa went (his staff still work for him don't they)?

You wouldn't want any of Hodgson's staff in charge.

Kenny brought in Clark.

The bootroom thing has always been unique to Liverpool. It was the exception, enabled by a unique set of individuals. It wasn't planned that way at the outset, it evolved that way because to promote from within was the best option at each of those times.

Evans was not a success imo. Less so than Houllier or Rafa, but slightly better than Souness.

The way of the world these days is that managers take their trusted backroom teams wherever they go.

Should the plan be to recruit players with an eye on promoting them through the coaching ranks in the future? That would seem to be the only way of recreating a bootroom, and there is less of a guarantee of success there than with an Academy for the youth players imo becuase there is a smaller pool of talent.

Every appointment should be based on recruiting the best available person for the job at the time. That goes for football, and life in general. If that means somebody gets a promotion, then all the better, as long as they are the best candidate.

[dom9]

For sure ? Just because you haven't seen a picture of them.

Does LVG not come under World Class ? What more does he need to win ?

Ah, I forgot about him, but it would seem according to the speculation, conjecture and wild guessing that he is not in frame for the manager's job. Again, I have no idea if he is or is not.

[JohnDoe]

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For sure ? Just because you haven't seen a picture of them.

Does LVG not come under World Class ? What more does he need to win ?

He is the only stand out candidate in my eyes who has actually been linked with the job and allegedly not turned it down,

[Vermilion]

Ah, I forgot about him, but it would seem according to the speculation, conjecture and wild guessing that he is not in frame for the manager's job. Again, I have no idea if he is or is not.

So there could be some world class managers that want the job then.

[dom9]

So there could be some world class managers that want the job then.

Could be.

[kris90210]

I think the Swansea thing is clutching at straws franklyHe left there 2 or 3 years ago and the batton has been taken up by Rodgers

Yes Rodgers might have used some of the principles Martinez did but hes the one who has shaped that side

Remember also Rodgers finished above Martinez

I dont get how a DOF improves Martinez or cancels out his flaws

The DOF wont be picking the team/tactics that will be down to Martinez

I'd take Van Gaal but only as manager I cant see there being long lasting harmony with him in the DOF role. Hes the Craig H of the football world

Cant say I'm impressed in any way shape or form with Martinez as manager

Step backwards for me and at best its an enormous gamble

But it could turn out to be the David Moyes / Arsene Wenger type gamble

Or the Roy Hodgson, Mike Walker, Steve Bruce type gamble

I think you really have to strike gold for this to work

Obviously, if that's your opinion then fair enough. I know a few Swansea season ticket holders who would disagree with you though.

Swansea were languishing in League 1 when he took over. He got them playing a new style of football and both Sousa and Rogers basically carried that on.

[Neil Young]

Ok, I can't see them going for Rafa but why isn't Jack Dumby being considered? His big club experience should make him the frontrunner.

[Vermilion]

It's hard to judge when your thinking of giving an up and coming manager a chance at a big club.

You would hope that Fsg are used to dealing with people like this, appointing people to top jobs, it won't be based just on Martinez's football career, they will want to judge the man.

If they judge Martinez to have that certain type of personality, clever..forthright...quickness of mind/thought, then the football stuff should follow from that, you would think that given better tools to do his job...the results would be good.

I know it doesn't always work like that, as it's football/sport, but it's a good starting point.

Suppose we just have to trust them for now.