WH Post Match

[Lecter]

You clearly haven't moved on.

You've been taking pot shots at BR all season because he's FSG's choice of manager, the same FSG who fired your hero because he bombed as manager and set this club back at least a year.
We just came from behind to beat a tough West Ham team without our best player and all you can do is talk about how our midfield under Rafa 7 years ago is better than our current one. How ****ing relevant.

You should take your own advice and move on. Give our new manager a chance, I don't see how that is so difficult.

I've taken shots at Brendan because he was the manager of a LFC side with the worst start in Premiership history

Nothing more nothing less

[Neil Young]

I don't know what you expected. It was always going to be a mess. Taking shots at him after a few games because the results were bad, as though they outweighed the more encouraging signs, was premature and partial.

[Mattshark]

I don't know what you expected. It was always going to be a mess. Taking shots at him after a few games because the results were bad, as though they outweighed the more encouraging signs, was premature and partial.

The club was set back badly by Roy then further by Kenny sadly.

[~LFCHistory~]

I've taken shots at Brendan because he was the manager of a LFC side with the worst start in Premiership history

Nothing more nothing less

We started terribly and have steadily improved and will continue to improve especially after the January transfer window. You really are wasting your time supporting this club because you'll never truly get behind the manager and even if we continue to improve you might feign an acceptance of BR but secretly you'll always be waiting for the next poor result which will give you an excuse to get the knives out once again.

How sad.

[Lecter]

We started terribly and have steadily improved and will continue to improve especially after the January transfer window. You really are wasting your time supporting this club because you'll never truly get behind the manager and even if we continue to improve you might feign an acceptance of BR but secretly you'll always be waiting for the next poor result which will give you an excuse to get the knives out once again.

How sad.

You have no idea how we will improve

All this depends on who we sign

Secondly I dont want Rodgers sacked but that doesnt mean I agree with everything he has done and is doing

The next poor result??

We won and I'm still critical of how the team performed and was set up

[Neil Young]

The club was set back badly by Roy then further by Kenny sadly.

I don't think the managers are the major issue. It's clear where most of the blame really lies. The club was set back badly by Hicks and Gillett. Bronto and Dalglish compounded the problems but there are some extenuating circumstances and it's a more nuanced picture (even for Bodge).

But HaG were a total disaster from start to finish. Pretty much the only reason we did so well throughout most of the ownership is because of Benitez (see Rafa threads passim ).

[Lecter]

I don't know what you expected. It was always going to be a mess. Taking shots at him after a few games because the results were bad, as though they outweighed the more encouraging signs, was premature and partial.

I expected better than our worst league start for decades

I expected a manager to get the team punching above its weight

[Bender]

for me we should be top 6 already if not joint 4th with our strongest 11....are imo underperforming....we haven't ripped up the side and started from scratch

[Lecter]

I don't think the managers are the major issue. It's clear where most of the blame really lies. The club was set back badly by Hicks and Gillett. Bronto and Dalglish compounded the problems but there are some extenuating circumstances and it's a more nuanced picture (even for Bodge).

But HaG were a total disaster from start to finish. Pretty much the only reason we did so well throughout most of the ownership is because of Benitez (see Rafa threads passim ).

Agree with all of this

In addition despite FSG making some good decisions in some areas of the business they have also made catastrophic errors in others

[Mattshark]

I don't think the managers are the major issue. It's clear where most of the blame really lies. The club was set back badly by Hicks and Gillett. Bronto and Dalglish compounded the problems but there are some extenuating circumstances and it's a more nuanced picture (even for Bodge).

But HaG were a total disaster from start to finish. Pretty much the only reason we did so well throughout most of the ownership is because of Benitez (see Rafa threads passim ).

That is true, but they can't be blamed for last seasons debacle.

[Fredo]

I expected better than our worst league start for decades

I expected a manager to get the team punching above its weight

Like Kenny last year? You were asking for patience I remember. It's a bit rich of you to come after a good win and make statements such as you did.

[Neil Young]

I expected better than our worst league start for decades

I expected a manager to get the team punching above its weight

You expected it? Or you hoped for it? It seems to strange to me to attack the manager for not getting the team to perform better in the first few games than one can rightfully expect, which is what punching above their weight means. It would have been nice but I don't think we can really have demanded it.

It was a poor start but there were other signs as I said, and it doesn't make sense just to judge him by results after just a few games.

Of course Rodgers' time in charge has been mixed so far but I don't think there's ever been a good case to date for saying the bad outweighs the good.

[Lee]

I don't think the managers are the major issue. It's clear where most of the blame really lies. The club was set back badly by Hicks and Gillett. Bronto and Dalglish compounded the problems but there are some extenuating circumstances and it's a more nuanced picture (even for Bodge).

But HaG were a total disaster from start to finish. Pretty much the only reason we did so well throughout most of the ownership is because of Benitez (see Rafa threads passim ).

Absolutely.

The damage caused to LFC under H&G is massive.

Hodgson was a disaster but we've cleared out his signings now (apart from Jones ).

Kenny had us playing really good football at the back end of the 2010-11 season but the signings we made that summer - especially at the price we paid for them - really set us back.

Rodgers has had one transfer window and a couple of months in the job. We need to give him time as there's no way he can turn things around instantly after the mess we've been in for the last two or three years.

[barnes10]

I expected better than our worst league start for decades

I expected a manager to get the team punching above its weight

... instantly

he's doing it now. we're no heavyweights anymore, if H&G didnt manage to actually bankrupt us, D & C were a pretty bad aftershock. We've blooded youth prospects and have changed to a deliberate, controlled passing style. we can even control the ball a lot better. something we've been woefully weak at for about 15 years.

expecting all of the above instantly was pretty unrealistic and you were always set for disappointment if that's the case. if he wasnt playing the youngsters or changing how the team plays then sure, give us a 442 and make us defensively solid. but he's trying to build something better than that. there's bigger picture here and taking us in that direction from where we were is more difficult.

[chadrtc]

The club was set back badly by Roy then further by Kenny sadly.

Unfortunately though it pains me to say it, Commoli and Kenny set us back more than Roy due to wasting all that money.

I really don't get the negativity around here, 3 wins on the bounce through a tough fixture list, our only loss since September in the league was the Spurs game that we fully deserved to win. We're clearly improving as the form table shows.

It's hard not surmise that some folks are desperate to see Rodgers fail because they didn't want him appointed in the first place.