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    #31
    Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
    Possibly but it's all insignificant compared to the damage wrought by the cowboys. We didn't make progress under Dalglish in many ways but I think it's disproportionate to say we'd be much further forward now. It;s their legacy that we're recovering from.

    And the failure to invest in the squad over that period will continue to cost us for quite some time yet. Even when we do get back into Europe we'll find it tough as the coefficient will be close to zero. I know some will blame Benitez and Hodgson and Purslow and Dalglish but the cowboys were running us into the ground and we narrowly escaped administration. Any damage others did is minimal in comparison.

    Dalglish steadied the club and I think it's easy to underestimate how important that has been. Yes, the full season and the signings he made that summer were not good but I don't think it did us that much damage really. It's hard to calculate of course but I don't think we lost that season and got set back by another.
    Moores/Parry>Cowboys>Purslow>>Bodge>Commolli>Dalglish

    Dalglish and Commolli were given a massive lifeline in terms of finances to get us very quickly back to where we were, but they ****ed it up, it really is as simple as that for me.
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      #32
      I'd love it if we all could just remove the events of the last few years from our minds, like in Eternal Sunshine and just get on with supporting where the club is now, which is top of the league.

      Given the circumstances in the run up to this season, its a pretty healthy state of affairs.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Alex View Post
        He has got nothing to defend for me.

        If we had won that FA Cup final, his second spell would have been treated totally differently.

        He made some bad signings, but I guess thats life. Anyone can do that.

        Kenny
        That year run in PL was so frustrating that I don't think it would have made any difference.

        Kenny is a living legend but unfortunately for him and us the club is still paying a price for some of his signings.
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          #34
          Look at it this way, would have Dalglish fared better without Commoli doing all the transfer dealings?...Did Commoli's transfer dealings got Dalglish sacked? Would have Dalglish been under pressure to justify the price tags on some of the signings bought by Commoli hence constantly leaving out Kuyt & Maxi...Would Dalglish pay 20 million for Downing without Commoli?...it goes on, doesn't it?
          Commoli with Dalglish just didn't fit & with that, Dalglish was left to deal with Commoli's extravagance in the transfer window...I can see why Spurs dumped Commoli & did it themselves.
          Another summer of the "drunken spending" of a frenchman!...remember 2003?
          Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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            #35
            Originally posted by Angryred View Post
            Look at it this way, would have Dalglish fared better without Commoli doing all the transfer dealings?...Did Commoli's transfer dealings got Dalglish sacked? Would have Dalglish been under pressure to justify the price tags on some of the signings bought by Commoli hence constantly leaving out Kuyt & Maxi...Would Dalglish pay 20 million for Downing without Commoli?...it goes on, doesn't it?
            Commoli with Dalglish just didn't fit & with that, Dalglish was left to deal with Commoli's extravagance in the transfer window...I can see why Spurs dumped Commoli & did it themselves.
            Another summer of the "drunken spending" of a frenchman!...remember 2003?
            Sorry mate, but I think you are making excuses here.
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              #36
              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
              Sorry mate, but I think you are making excuses here.
              For who?...just can't help thinking out aloud!
              Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                #37
                The main thing Kenny needs to defend is why he broke up a very exciting and winning side, the 2nd half of the season he inherited from Bodge the football was brilliant. Maxi/Mireles/Bellamy/Kuyt all interchanging off and around Suarez.

                There was a real buzz back, he ruined all that and by ditching that style of play and buying Downing and Carroll.

                The thing is I though he signed Carroll to be the focal point and have any combination of the players listed above to play off and around him in a fluid formation.

                Nope, he went back to rigid 4-4-2 with Henderson tucked in off the right, and when he played Downing it was mostly from the right when Carroll was crying out for decent delivery.

                The whole of that period if baffling, bad decision after bad decision be it signings, then tactics, then positions played then combinations.

                Everything, come the end Kenny looked what he was which was a broken, outdated coach for modern football.
                The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                  The main thing Kenny needs to defend is why he broke up a very exciting and winning side, the 2nd half of the season he inherited from Bodge the football was brilliant. Maxi/Mireles/Bellamy/Kuyt all interchanging off and around Suarez.

                  There was a real buzz back, he ruined all that and by ditching that style of play and buying Downing and Carroll.

                  The thing is I though he signed Carroll to be the focal point and have any combination of the players listed above to play off and around him in a fluid formation.

                  Nope, he went back to rigid 4-4-2 with Henderson tucked in off the right, and when he played Downing it was mostly from the right when Carroll was crying out for decent delivery.

                  The whole of that period if baffling, bad decision after bad decision be it signings, then tactics, then positions played then combinations.

                  Everything, come the end Kenny looked what he was which was a broken, outdated coach for modern football.
                  By all accounts weren't these the high earners that had to be ditched under FSG's policy?
                  What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Yozza View Post
                    By all accounts weren't these the high earners that had to be ditched under FSG's policy?
                    & that too!
                    Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Angryred View Post
                      Look at it this way, would have Dalglish fared better without Commoli doing all the transfer dealings?...Did Commoli's transfer dealings got Dalglish sacked? Would have Dalglish been under pressure to justify the price tags on some of the signings bought by Commoli hence constantly leaving out Kuyt & Maxi...Would Dalglish pay 20 million for Downing without Commoli?...it goes on, doesn't it?
                      Commoli with Dalglish just didn't fit & with that, Dalglish was left to deal with Commoli's extravagance in the transfer window...I can see why Spurs dumped Commoli & did it themselves.
                      Another summer of the "drunken spending" of a frenchman!...remember 2003?
                      In honesty yes he would.

                      Comolli said that he wanted Mata and it was Kenny who wanted Downing.
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Yozza View Post
                        By all accounts weren't these the high earners that had to be ditched under FSG's policy?
                        Well, Kenny brought in Bellamy himself.

                        Maxi and Kuyt were very much options but we not used well. We got rid or Meireles for Adam, which was a huge step backwards.
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by The Birdman View Post
                          The main thing Kenny needs to defend is why he broke up a very exciting and winning side, the 2nd half of the season he inherited from Bodge the football was brilliant. Maxi/Mireles/Bellamy/Kuyt all interchanging off and around Suarez.

                          There was a real buzz back, he ruined all that and by ditching that style of play and buying Downing and Carroll.

                          The thing is I though he signed Carroll to be the focal point and have any combination of the players listed above to play off and around him in a fluid formation.

                          Nope, he went back to rigid 4-4-2 with Henderson tucked in off the right, and when he played Downing it was mostly from the right when Carroll was crying out for decent delivery.

                          The whole of that period if baffling, bad decision after bad decision be it signings, then tactics, then positions played then combinations.

                          Everything, come the end Kenny looked what he was which was a broken, outdated coach for modern football.
                          Pretty much sums it up for me.

                          Although Bellamy wasn't playing for us at the back end of that 10/11 season.

                          But that Kuyt, Maxi, Meireles and Suarez combo worked really well, so I've no idea why Kenny decided to tear it up. Anyone can see that Carroll, Downing and Adam where never going to elevate us to the next level.

                          As for how Kenny or Comolli worked together... we all know that football is full of bull**** so we'll probably never find out how exactly they went about deciding on their signings.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Lee View Post
                            Pretty much sums it up for me.

                            Although Bellamy wasn't playing for us at the back end of that 10/11 season.

                            But that Kuyt, Maxi, Meireles and Suarez combo worked really well, so I've no idea why Kenny decided to tear it up. Anyone can see that Carroll, Downing and Adam where never going to elevate us to the next level.

                            As for how Kenny or Comolli worked together... we all know that football is full of bull**** so we'll probably never find out how exactly they went about deciding on their signings.

                            Yeah I was wrong about Bellamy.
                            The thing is that what Kenny had and then ripped up is what we have now, a striker in Sturridge with fluid movement off him in Coutinho/Moses/Henderson/ Suarez et al

                            It's all benefit of hindsight stuff but instead of buying Downing had Kenny bought another 'defensive' midfielder to play alongside Lucas (and more importantly instead of Spearing) then we would have had a front 4 from Carroll, Maxi, Kuyt, Miereles, Bellamy and Suarez.



                            Plus Joe Cole
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Tee View Post
                              Moores/Parry>Cowboys>Purslow>>Bodge>Commolli>Dalglish

                              Dalglish and Commolli were given a massive lifeline in terms of finances to get us very quickly back to where we were, but they ****ed it up, it really is as simple as that for me.
                              Dalglish and Comolli f*cked up for sure. But everyone f*cks up. They didn't do as much harm as Hicks and Gillett.

                              I don't see how Moores and Parry can ever get more blame than those two liars. For all their faults Moores and Parry didn't come close to bankrupting the club!
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                                Dalglish and Comolli f*cked up for sure. But everyone f*cks up. They didn't do as much harm as Hicks and Gillett.

                                I don't see how Moores and Parry can ever get more blame than those two liars. For all their faults Moores and Parry didn't come close to bankrupting the club!
                                Well, their eleventh hour ill fated change of heart over selling the club did. So I for one hold them responsible for the cowboys taking over.
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