Well we're all in a much better place now so it's probably best to consign this to the history books and concentrate our energy on backing our exciting current new team in charge
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The signings of Downing and Adam I can understand as they were doing well with lesser teams and there was a chance that playing with better players they could kick-on to a higher level. Henderson I can understand because he was a young, English, high-energy player who had scored a few goals from midfield.
The Carroll signing I just cannot fathom. Even when he is playing well you don't have to watch him for too long to realise he's a limited player and some of those limits are on his ability to run without tripping himself up. The stuff that he does better than other players are only useful in a long-ball team. I have to wonder how much of that £35m went to Newcastle because it would almost be reassuring to believe that the people involved were bent rather than think they thought Carroll was Liverpool standard.Never knowingly optimisticComment
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No, the cowboys almost bankrupted the club. Selling to them was foolish and stupid. And you're right, Moores and Parry are clearly responsible for that. Even so, they're not more at fault for what the cowboys did than the cowboys themselves. That's nonsensical.Originally posted by Tee View Post
Or look at it this way: if you're going to blame the people who sold the club to the cowboys for what the cowboys did, then you need to blame to blame the people who sold the club to the people who sold the club to the cowboys, and then the people who sold to them, and so on back to 1892.
I understand why you're angry with the decision Moores and Parry made and there's good reason to be so. All the same, if I had to choose who to shoot and was given only two bullets I wouldn't have to think twice about where to aim the gun..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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What if you had 4 bullets?Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
"Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob PaisleyComment
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I'd shoot the cowboys twice..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.Comment
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Henderson had 4 goals in 4 seasons before we signed him.Originally posted by Bryncoch View Post
Downing had a low created chance to goal rate (7% about the same as we acheived under Kenny's full season).
Adam had a pass accuracy of about 67%, which is awful.Comment
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At that age, I'd doubt Henderson was expected to perform from day 1. Downing had just been voted Villa fan's Player of the Season so must have been doing something beyond creating chances (what I'll never know). Adam, who knows?Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
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Non - story imo. We've moved on.Comment
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I'd have thought that but Kenny stuck Henderson straight into the first team, but his scoring record has never been very good.Originally posted by ronanm View PostAt that age, I'd doubt Henderson was expected to perform from day 1. Downing had just been voted Villa fan's Player of the Season so must have been doing something beyond creating chances (what I'll never know). Adam, who knows?
What I was saying was no one those players looked good if you actually looked at them in depth.Comment
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Henderson or Downing? Doubt the former was brought in to score goals.Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
In the case of Downing, the season before he joined he scored 7 goals and had 9 assists in the league. Similarly, Chad weighed it with 12 goals and 9 assists in the league alone (not sure how many pens). (Both stats courtesy of fantasypremierleague
). Hardly horrendous.
Anyway, as we know, we've all moved on (except me - KCDNW)
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Only commenting on what Bryn said in that regard.Originally posted by ronanm View PostHenderson or Downing? Doubt the former was brought in to score goals.
In the case of Downing, the season before he joined he scored 7 goals and had 9 assists in the league. Similarly, Chad weighed it with 12 goals and 9 assists in the league alone (not sure how many pens). (Both stats courtesy of fantasypremierleague). Hardly horrendous.
Anyway, as we know, we've all moved on (except me - KCDNW)
A 67% pass accuracy from Adam, which is horrendous. Think I argued all these points at time, none of those players were good when you looked at their stats in depth.Comment
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None of them?
I'm glad we signed Henderson. He's a good player..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.Comment
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Would you sack a manger for finishing 6th ?Originally posted by Arn View Post
If you finish in eight place as a manager for Liverpool FC then you deserve to be sacked but you also need to question if FSG asked Kenny what he think is more important, the league or winning the domestic cups?
I think that Kenny had acted differently if he knew that the domestic cups is just a bonus.
So it wasn't only his fault IMO that we finished in eight place.Comment
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